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RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - ejp - 08-25-2009 06:05 PM

(08-25-2009 05:57 PM)Omertron Wrote:  IF you were really clever (and you are Wink) you can do both.
I've just finished Issue 711 (see the sticky skin thread) and now you have banners AND posters for each of the TV shows so you could choose to display either if you wanted depending on where you are in the index.... I'll leave it to you to work out Smile
Oh, and this is just the first pass of the code, so if you need changes let me know and I'm happy to sort it out

I'm not that clever. Sad I have a long day ahead of me, don't I.


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - c4fen01r - 08-25-2009 06:32 PM

(08-25-2009 04:58 PM)ejp Wrote:  I'm not going to make the directors/actors/years clickable. As I mentioned above, the movie details page is very fragile and doesn't necessarily like links scattered throughout. I'll revisit it again just to make sure, but it'll be unlikely -- besides, XBMC Aeon doesn't do this anyway

Please take a look at it, because this would be simply awesome... The only reason why at the moment I'm still using NMTServer (dynamic YAMJ) is because of the clickable names (and its advanced research functions).
For browsing big movie collections, the clickable names are a must Wink

(08-25-2009 04:58 PM)ejp Wrote:  I can work with the country of origin, but where would you suggest putting it?

I dont' really know, I trust your graphical skills.
... But probably, if the country won't be clickable, then there's no big need for it, at least for me.


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - tyrant78 - 08-25-2009 07:37 PM

(08-24-2009 11:00 PM)ejp Wrote:  I'm guessing you're talking about the thumbnails in the Wall view.

A screenshot would greatly help with how it looks like, but without knowing what it looks like, I would ask you to look at the skin.properties file. Assuming you're using the normal unmodded skin, these 3 lines should present somewhere in your skin.properties file without a "#" to the left of it:
thumbnails.width=117
thumbnails.height=174
thumbnails.normalize=true

Make sure it's that way, but even if it already is, make sure to delete all your previously generated moviename_small.png files, then regenerate. Reboot your NMT and try viewing your jukebox again.


k did all that you said and still the problems persists, thumbnails for the most part are good(i think that just maybe the best i can get with that) and the ppp skin showing certain tv shows, there doesnt seem to be a pattern to it, ill try to post some screenshots when i get home


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List V - excal - 08-25-2009 07:47 PM

(08-25-2009 05:08 PM)pascal.berger Wrote:  Perhaps if it is possible to tell YAMJ to use banners just for the TV Shows. For everything else use the movie wall as it is now (with covers also for TV shows)

yes this is possible and how i have it setup in redefined. I setup the coding to use banners when i originally made the skin with the thought that one day we'd have them.

Essentially you just have to make a choose statement





use this layout for tv shows.




use default layout






i don't remember the exact path for the current index you have to use, but if you open up my index.xsl file in redefined you can copy and paste it outta there.


NOTE: actually i just remembered i set it to be spelled wrong so it'd never be found currently. I think you just have to change TV+Shows to be TV_Shows (or however it looks in the xml file).
(08-25-2009 04:58 PM)ejp Wrote:  Wow, a lot's happened
I'm not going to make the directors/actors/years clickable. As I mentioned above, the movie details page is very fragile and doesn't necessarily like links scattered throughout. I'll revisit it again just to make sure, but it'll be unlikely -- besides, XBMC Aeon doesn't do this anyway

Big Grin

you MIGHT be able to get around this with some background trickery. But you'd have to maintain tight control of the focus. Every key would have to be accounted for. I'd have to test it out to know for sure. But i suspect your concerns are correct


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - ejp - 08-25-2009 08:10 PM

(08-25-2009 07:37 PM)tyrant78 Wrote:  k did all that you said and still the problems persists, thumbnails for the most part are good(i think that just maybe the best i can get with that) and the ppp skin showing certain tv shows, there doesnt seem to be a pattern to it, ill try to post some screenshots when i get home

Yes, a screenshot would greatly help with how it looks like.


(08-25-2009 07:47 PM)excal Wrote:  [QUOTE='pascal.berger' pid='231127' dateline='1251216519']yes this is possible and how i have it setup in redefined. I setup the coding to use banners when i originally made the skin with the thought that one day we'd have them.

Essentially you just have to make a choose statement





use this layout for tv shows.




use default layout






i don't remember the exact path for the current index you have to use, but if you open up my index.xsl file in redefined you can copy and paste it outta there.


NOTE: actually i just remembered i set it to be spelled wrong so it'd never be found currently. I think you just have to change TV+Shows to be TV_Shows (or however it looks in the xml file).

Big Grin

you MIGHT be able to get around this with some background trickery. But you'd have to maintain tight control of the focus. Every key would have to be accounted for. I'd have to test it out to know for sure. But i suspect your concerns are correct

That's basically how I was going to sort out the TV shows, but it's good to see it confirmed.

You know me and my troubles so well. Big Grin


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - mhut - 08-25-2009 08:54 PM

Regarding the great update news about the tv banners, i think that, coming to this point, may be very very interesting to have at least two separate indexes (or even jukeboxes), one exclusively for tvshows (with the banners on the indexes) and another to the movies (with wallview). So then, is easy to set two links on the hdd root index.html, each one pointing to movie jukebox and tv jukebox.
I bet that both jukeboxes can include a link on the categories/genres filter to quickly switch between movies and tvshows (avoiding going to hdd root index to click on the desired juke).
But reading the last posts, maybe i can bet also that ejp can make it even more easy with banners for tv and posters for movie both living on the same jukebox as actually.


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - truelove79 - 08-25-2009 11:58 PM

I love the new thumbnail popups, but is there any way to make the popup size smaller, and make it so the regular indexed thumbnails have rounded corners too just like the popups?

EDIT: Ahh, I see you mentioned that the regular thumbnails are square because if they were rounded too the skin would be too slow. That's too bad, because that would be really slick.


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - AlexNC - 08-26-2009 12:03 AM

So, when are you planning on making a matching skin for Wandidj's 'Music Jukebox'?
=)


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - ejp - 08-26-2009 12:13 AM

(08-25-2009 08:54 PM)mhut Wrote:  Regarding the great update news about the tv banners, i think that, coming to this point, may be very very interesting to have at least two separate indexes (or even jukeboxes), one exclusively for tvshows (with the banners on the indexes) and another to the movies (with wallview). So then, is easy to set two links on the hdd root index.html, each one pointing to movie jukebox and tv jukebox.
I bet that both jukeboxes can include a link on the categories/genres filter to quickly switch between movies and tvshows (avoiding going to hdd root index to click on the desired juke).
But reading the last posts, maybe i can bet also that ejp can make it even more easy with banners for tv and posters for movie both living on the same jukebox as actually.

Ideally, there would be 2 separate jukeboxes. Right now, with how I'm doing things, there's going to be a drawback -- and I might have to ask for a feature request. But I'll see how things go, and I'll take it from there.


(08-25-2009 11:58 PM)truelove79 Wrote:  I love the new thumbnail popups, but is there any way to make the popup size smaller, and make it so the regular indexed thumbnails have rounded corners too just like the popups?

You can make the popup thumbnail smaller, but you'll have to change the positioning of each one if you want to center them again. The size of the popup thumbnail is actually controlled by the thumbnails.width and thumbnails.height in the skin.properties file, so this is where you can make it smaller. The "regular thumbnails" are actually the popup thumbnails, but resized to be smaller. You'll also probably have to edit that popup overlay in an image editor to be smaller as well.

If you look at the code, you'll see 27 of these:
#imgDVD1 { visibility: hidden; position: absolute; top: 12px; left: 11px; }
#frmDVD1 { visibility: hidden; position: absolute; top: 1px; left: 0px; }

You'll have to change the "top" and "left" value for all 27 of them.


To make the "regular thumbnails" be rounded also, there would have to be some deeper coding changes. But let me try to explain why I didn't go that route.

I would basically use the 'true' style, like how it normally is now. Then I'd use the popup coding from the 'awesome' mod, but I'd have to upscale the thumbnails to however big I want the popup thumbnail to be.

Now generally, you don't want to upscale, especially when it's just an HTML upscale -- the image just becomes way too blurry. Maybe if you're only popping up a little bit it'll be fine, but I didn't originally quite know how big I wanted to make the popup thumbnails. I made them the same size from XBMC Aeon (which is how it is now). I tried it out -- it was just too blurry.
(08-26-2009 12:03 AM)AlexNC Wrote:  So, when are you planning on making a matching skin for Wandidj's 'Music Jukebox'?
=)

Lol. Is the skinning easy enough?

I don't really listen to music on my PCH. Is Wandidj's Music Jukebox the preferred music jukebox? Are there any other music jukeboxes, or does Wandidj have a monopoly on that?


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - AlexNC - 08-26-2009 04:38 AM

(08-26-2009 12:13 AM)ejp Wrote:  Lol. Is the skinning easy enough?

I don't really listen to music on my PCH. Is Wandidj's Music Jukebox the preferred music jukebox? Are there any other music jukeboxes, or does Wandidj have a monopoly on that?

No idea. I am too illiterate to know if it is easy. I assume it is since some others have made skins. Personally, it is the best music player I have used on the PCH. It allows album art, tag editting, playlist generation and many other user settings.


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 26, 2009 - TV Banners Supported! - ejp - 08-26-2009 04:43 AM

1st post updated.
(08-26-2009 04:38 AM)AlexNC Wrote:  No idea. I am too illiterate to know if it is easy. I assume it is since some others have made skins. Personally, it is the best music player I have used on the PCH. It allows album art, tag editting, playlist generation and many other user settings.

Well, I'll see what the rest of the summer has in store for me ... and the fall. This was really only supposed to be a summer project, and time's running short.


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 23, 2009 - PopUp Thumbnails and List View! - tyrant78 - 08-26-2009 05:46 AM

Quote:Yes, a screenshot would greatly help with how it looks like.




ok here is a shot of the main page and what i see for tv shows when the skin uses ppp

[Image: mainscreen.jpg]

[Image: tvscreen.jpg]

im open to any help, and i set everything as i was instructed to do
as you can see the main screen looks ok for the most part that page is mostly ok but others you cant even tell what the movie is[quote]


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 26, 2009 - TV Banners Supported! - ejp - 08-26-2009 05:50 AM

(08-26-2009 05:46 AM)tyrant78 Wrote:  ok here is a shot of the main page and what i see for tv shows when the skin uses ppp

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg31/fearthis78/mainscreen.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg31/fearthis78/tvscreen.jpg

im open to any help, and i set everything as i was instructed to do
as you can see the main screen looks ok for the most part that page is mostly ok but others you cant even tell what the movie is

That is extremely odd. You opened this up in a web browser and took a screenshot of that?


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 22, 2009 - Two New Features! - AbMagFab - 08-26-2009 06:02 AM

(08-23-2009 03:52 PM)ejp Wrote:  
(08-23-2009 12:39 PM)AbMagFab Wrote:  Bummer... I was hoping this would work like the 5150 skin, where the trailers would be shown on the main movie details page. This is how I group my Bonus/Extras, and like seeing them all together with the movie.

Any thoughts on updating this skin to support Extras/Bonus like 5150? I prefer the Aeon UI, but need to have the grouped extras.
I'm sorry. The skin currently does not accommodate extras that way. The skin really does try to utilize as much screen space as possible. If someone were to have 20 extras (as an exaggeration ... because you know there's that one person with 20 extras), I wouldn't know where to put it.

It might be possible to implement this when I make an alternative view for movies that looks similar to the TV shows view.

Couldn't you do some sort of pop-up?

Or, do like the 5150 skin, where you show them in the description space (since like 99% of them will fit), and then start truncating the description if it gets too many? And if you did them in columns, you would satisfy 99.999% of situations.


RE: [YAMJ] ÆON Movie Wall YAMJ *UPDATE* August 26, 2009 - TV Banners Supported! - ejp - 08-26-2009 06:08 AM

(08-26-2009 06:02 AM)AbMagFab Wrote:  Couldn't you do some sort of pop-up?

Or, do like the 5150 skin, where you show them in the description space (since like 99% of them will fit), and then start truncating the description if it gets too many? And if you did them in columns, you would satisfy 99.999% of situations.

Something like that might be possible, but I won't do it unless I like how it looks. If it's just a list of links preceding or proceeding the plot, then it just might not be aesthetically pleasing. Besides -- I've mentioned this a couple times -- the skin is rather "fragile" and might not necessarily like links scattered throughout.

I'm more inclined to use a popup method if I can get that to work. However, this goes back to the issue about intuition. How might a novice user know there's extras available and how to access them?