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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - halfelite - 04-14-2011 12:11 AM

Mode note: Thread cleaned of cross talk


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - karmat63 - 04-14-2011 12:53 PM

(04-11-2011 08:47 AM)locutus2k Wrote:  P.S. Glad to hear that finally the YcBcr output will be added to the c200. I was asking this since day1Wink
Now is time for the "source direct" option (fingers crossed).

+1; Where did you find the new, as I was unable to find anything specific?
Great, anyway...at last, probably C200' worst downside concerning picture quality will be resolved Smile


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - Shepardos - 04-14-2011 04:09 PM

(04-14-2011 12:53 PM)karmat63 Wrote:  
(04-11-2011 08:47 AM)locutus2k Wrote:  P.S. Glad to hear that finally the YcBcr output will be added to the c200. I was asking this since day1Wink
Now is time for the "source direct" option (fingers crossed).

+1; Where did you find the new, as I was unable to find anything specific?
Great, anyway...at last, probably C200' worst downside concerning picture quality will be resolved Smile

This would be awesome because this will bring the C200 in a different league! I can easily measure a difference between RGB and YcBcr on my Lumagen!!!

Great to hear, when will this happen?


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - Padavan - 04-14-2011 07:51 PM

halfelite

RGB output - is only one of several troubles. PCH also bad output for interlace media. In details - http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=51402


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - Shepardos - 04-14-2011 08:24 PM

(04-14-2011 07:51 PM)Padavan Wrote:  halfelite

RGB output - is only one of several troubles. PCH also bad output for interlace media. In details - http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=51402

YcBcr together with native "untouched" output would solve all the issues!!!!


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - locutus2k - 04-15-2011 08:23 AM

(04-14-2011 12:53 PM)karmat63 Wrote:  
(04-11-2011 08:47 AM)locutus2k Wrote:  P.S. Glad to hear that finally the YcBcr output will be added to the c200. I was asking this since day1Wink
Now is time for the "source direct" option (fingers crossed).

+1; Where did you find the new, as I was unable to find anything specific?
Great, anyway...at last, probably C200' worst downside concerning picture quality will be resolved Smile


Here: http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=50743&page=7 post #103 by Werner itself Smile
(04-14-2011 04:09 PM)Shepardos Wrote:  
(04-14-2011 12:53 PM)karmat63 Wrote:  
(04-11-2011 08:47 AM)locutus2k Wrote:  P.S. Glad to hear that finally the YcBcr output will be added to the c200. I was asking this since day1Wink
Now is time for the "source direct" option (fingers crossed).

+1; Where did you find the new, as I was unable to find anything specific?
Great, anyway...at last, probably C200' worst downside concerning picture quality will be resolved Smile

This would be awesome because this will bring the C200 in a different league! I can easily measure a difference between RGB and YcBcr on my Lumagen!!!

Great to hear, when will this happen?

Exactly! i have a Lumagen, too, and YcBcr is the way to go for a crystal clear picture and colours.
Hope it wil happen soon but i have a bad feeling since it seems that software updates for the c200 have been slowed down too much! I can't see nothing yet on the "beta firmware - see what's being tested" thread.
The sooner, the better. Fingers crossed!


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - Adrgha - 04-15-2011 10:06 AM

The next firmware will not be beta tested, that's why there haven't been any updates to that thread lately. The reason for this is that this will be an online-only update (due to inclusion of some new licenses)... Normal betas should continue after this.

Also, it seems to me that they are busier than ever confirming and fixing bugs as can be seen from the daily feedback we're given in the Mantis bugtracking system. They are not sitting idle. Wink


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - Shepardos - 04-15-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:Exactly! i have a Lumagen, too, and YcBcr is the way to go for a crystal clear picture and colours.
Hope it wil happen soon but i have a bad feeling since it seems that software updates for the c200 have been slowed down too much! I can't see nothing yet on the "beta firmware - see what's being tested" thread.
The sooner, the better. Fingers crossed!

I use ChromaPur and Lumagen TestPattern. If I measure the results from the testPattern of the Lumagen and compare to the TestPattern from the C200 (via AVS HD709 Disk) than I clearly see a big difference in:

- Gamma
- Color Gamut
- Grayscale

Hope that this will be solved with YcBcr output. Did you also measure similar results?


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - rizerio - 04-15-2011 06:45 PM

(04-13-2011 09:05 PM)grizzly666 Wrote:  Try this first.
The c-200 can be set to the wrong output so try this.
Quick TV Mode Settings
For quick setup of the output video mode, please press the “TV Mode” key,
wait 1 second, then press one of the numeric keys, as below:
TV Mode + 0 = Auto TV mode
TV Mode + 1 = Component/Composite NTSC 480i
TV Mode + 2 = Component/Composite PAL 576i
TV Mode + 3 = reserved
TV Mode + 4 = Component 720p60
TV Mode + 5 = Component 1080i60
TV Mode + 6 = Component 1080p60
TV Mode + 7 = HDMI 720p60
TV Mode + 8 = HDMI 1080i60
TV Mode + 9 = HDMI 1080p60
TV Mode + CAPS/NUM = Toggles between 50Hz and 60Hz
It may take a couple off seconds before the output displays on the start screen.
If after 115 sec there is no picture then try the next tvmode + number.

Note if using TV Mode + 0 = Auto TV mode and you do get picture go in to the settings and change from auto to 1080p or 720p or whatever you want to use.
Auto should only be used as a last resort.

If you can´t get it to work on any setting above do the c-200 work on any other tv?
If yes does it work with the same cable on the working tv?
Does the c-200 works with any other HDMI cable (shorter)?
Do the 5m cable work on any other device dvd,bluray,htpc,tv,etc?

You could also try to switch the cable around (the end that was in the tv now goes in the pch) atleast it don´t hurt trying.
At 5m+ lenght there is not unusal for HDMI cables to have trouble.

If nothing works try the component (the 3 red,gren,blue rca) and as a very last resort composite cable (the yellow rca).
And use tvmode + numbers for the right outputs used.

Thanks i have tried all setups and also with another shorter hdmi the same black screen.
For HDMI i have the recommend settings for EU:

Video Output: 1080p/50
Frameratesync: 24p/NTSC

no oversan and no intelligent frame creation

But no image, only a black screen, at the moment I'm using the composite cable and no problem there:

1080i 60hz

many thanks...


but no problem i'm using


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - riji - 04-16-2011 11:16 AM

Since there was no response to my request, I repeat this again:
audio is often lost (change mpeg version, too much forwarding... ) and so I would like a faster method than now having to fully reboot.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - Shepardos - 04-18-2011 11:08 AM

what is now the status of the YCbCr and native resolution output? Will this come in the next official FW? Any timeframe?


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - geekuix - 04-18-2011 11:27 AM

Still no news, have to wait Wink


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - grizzly666 - 04-18-2011 11:31 AM

(04-15-2011 06:45 PM)rizerio Wrote:  Thanks i have tried all setups and also with another shorter hdmi the same black screen.
For HDMI i have the recommend settings for EU:

Video Output: 1080p/50
Frameratesync: 24p/NTSC

no oversan and no intelligent frame creation

But no image, only a black screen, at the moment I'm using the composite cable and no problem there:

1080i 60hz

many thanks...


but no problem i'm using

Well the only option left seems to try the pch on a diffrent tv.
I would say that either the hdmi output on the pch is broken or the hdmi input on the tv is broken.
Have you tried any other hdmi device (dvd,bluray,etc) on the tv?
If yes did it work?
If no can you borrow some from a freind,family to test?
Have you tried all the hdmi inputs on the tv (some can be bad and others work)?
Can you take the pch to a friend,familys tv and test to see if it works?

Or as a last resort return,repair,exchange the pch.

Or do as geekuix said try with a cable that you are 100% sure that it works (used,tested on other gears).


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - geekuix - 04-18-2011 11:39 AM

Or try a different hdmi cable?


RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110308-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (11.03.2011) - rizerio - 04-18-2011 07:30 PM

(04-18-2011 11:31 AM)grizzly666 Wrote:  
(04-15-2011 06:45 PM)rizerio Wrote:  Thanks i have tried all setups and also with another shorter hdmi the same black screen.
For HDMI i have the recommend settings for EU:

Video Output: 1080p/50
Frameratesync: 24p/NTSC

no oversan and no intelligent frame creation

But no image, only a black screen, at the moment I'm using the composite cable and no problem there:

1080i 60hz

many thanks...


but no problem i'm using

Well the only option left seems to try the pch on a diffrent tv.
I would say that either the hdmi output on the pch is broken or the hdmi input on the tv is broken.
Have you tried any other hdmi device (dvd,bluray,etc) on the tv?
If yes did it work?
If no can you borrow some from a freind,family to test?
Have you tried all the hdmi inputs on the tv (some can be bad and others work)?
Can you take the pch to a friend,familys tv and test to see if it works?

Or as a last resort return,repair,exchange the pch.

Or do as geekuix said try with a cable that you are 100% sure that it works (used,tested on other gears).

i have tried different cables, all of them work well with other devices on the plasma tv, no problem there, i have tried to use the pch on my HP lcd pc screen and the same problem no signal is detected, i have a last test to do in another lcd tv from a friend until then i use the composite cable