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[C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - Printable Version

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RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - BanditRider - 06-12-2011 07:06 PM

(06-12-2011 06:39 PM)psidrj Wrote:  Ok, now I just read every page of this post, and I see myself forced to add a comment to my ask bellow ....

Please, I beg you not see this as a re-post, including why I'm quoting something I posted today ...

I stunned by the fact that there were other people who asked questions like this, on this very same subject, but none were answered.


I trust that one of the greatest qualities of their product lies in the high level of support provided. Therefore I urge you not to ignore this kind of question .... simply for it to be forgotten.


Much appreciated,
Paul
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(06-12-2011 05:40 PM)psidrj Wrote:  Sorry if this question has already been done, but I still I'm on the fifth page, I will read until the eighteenth ...

I was concerned with the need for periodic licensing.

I wonder if there is some function in the NMT that I already have on NMT and that, after making the new update, can be disabled if I did not make the next license upgrade in 18 months.

I would not want to be rude, but please, let me expand my question to a touchy subject ....

I also ask whether some function of my C200 is or will be dependent on the existence of your company. If, for good or bad reasons (for example, your company is acquired by another, and the discontinued product or ... etc) My device will continue operating at its full potential, while not suffer any damage? or I will loose some functions by licence expiring?

Much appreciated,
Paulo
(translated by google.... )

No, as I understand it, you will never lose any existing functionality by not taking a future update. You will only lose future functionality. Meaning new encryption schemes or DRM protection methods. Your existing stuff will continue to work as usual.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - catalinu - 06-12-2011 08:01 PM

I'll never update my PCH-200, because I think is dangerous... To brick a 400 euros player from an update, is not very good thing. They are making experiments on our money, I know, but to burn 400 euros I'm not so crazy !


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - accident - 06-12-2011 08:31 PM

If your unit bricks from an update where you can't recover it on your own, you have a physical problem with the unit. I've never heard of syabas not replacing a unit for this type of issue even if your out of warranty... I've also seen many firmwares get delayed until they know it will not brick a unit.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - RedHat - 06-12-2011 08:32 PM

That's up to you. I flashed mine about 50 times I think.
Never had a problem. But people want to use custom stuff, which can cause issues.

(06-12-2011 08:01 PM)catalinu Wrote:  I'll never update my PCH-200, because I think is dangerous... To brick a 400 euros player from an update, is not very good thing. They are making experiments on our money, I know, but to burn 400 euros I'm not so crazy !



RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - chris57 - 06-12-2011 08:33 PM

(06-12-2011 06:39 PM)psidrj Wrote:  Ok, now I just read every page of this post, and I see myself forced to add a comment to my ask bellow ....

Please, I beg you not see this as a re-post, including why I'm quoting something I posted today ...

I stunned by the fact that there were other people who asked questions like this, on this very same subject, but none were answered.


I trust that one of the greatest qualities of their product lies in the high level of support provided. Therefore I urge you not to ignore this kind of question .... simply for it to be forgotten.


Much appreciated,
Paul
translated by google


(06-12-2011 05:40 PM)psidrj Wrote:  Sorry if this question has already been done, but I still I'm on the fifth page, I will read until the eighteenth ...

I was concerned with the need for periodic licensing.

I wonder if there is some function in the NMT that I already have on NMT and that, after making the new update, can be disabled if I did not make the next license upgrade in 18 months.

I would not want to be rude, but please, let me expand my question to a touchy subject ....

I also ask whether some function of my C200 is or will be dependent on the existence of your company. If, for good or bad reasons (for example, your company is acquired by another, and the discontinued product or ... etc) My device will continue operating at its full potential, while not suffer any damage? or I will loose some functions by licence expiring?

Much appreciated,
Paulo
(translated by google.... )

If Syabas didn't exist tomorrow then we would not be able to update in 18 months time. If the product was discontinued then I would expect continued updates with new keys. Syabas support their products for a far longer life cycle then just about any other manufacturer of media players. The A100 still gets firmware updates and that is discontinued as an example.

It is an update not a new license, so you would still be able to use the player for disc playback, but some with new protection may not play and would require the use of a PC to backup and remove the protection.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - walkerx - 06-12-2011 08:51 PM

why are people complaining about having to flash the firmware for the new keys - if you had a stand-alone 1st generation blu-ray player you can't update to use the latest keys so you have to purchase a new machine - while at least with the c-200 you can update the firmware giving you the ability to watch new titles

so stop complaining about updating and either a) do it so you can watch newer movies or b) don't bother and just stay with what you've already got

remember the c-200 is nearly 2 years old and we're still receiving updates many other manufacturers aren't providing updates for their players


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - halfelite - 06-12-2011 08:55 PM

(06-12-2011 06:34 PM)requis Wrote:  And I guess that would be the point....your views don't entitle you to post inflammatory content because your a moderator...re: just like the rest of us...and I suspect had one of us (Without Moderator status) you would have taken a hard line on that type of post. In any case taking the high road is truly the hardest path to take...and as you stated you can't help everyone. But keep up the great work in trying...Afterall you are a staunch supporter of the product, and there are a lot of us that still need the help, and are willing to read the good information you and other members /moderators put forward.

Thanks for your help,

Cheers,

Requis

Nah im on easy mod as long as you dont say a personal attack you can speak whatever you want we are all adults here I feel is someone cant handle it its tough luck for them.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - Burnerbum - 06-12-2011 09:35 PM

(06-12-2011 08:33 PM)chris57 Wrote:  It is an update not a new license, so you would still be able to use the player for disc playback, but some with new protection may not play and would require the use of a PC to backup and remove the protection.

So this license update is for playing the physical disc using an external drive or one in the 200 bay. If I were not to update (not saying I'm not) I would still be able to play and current or future BR discs that I backup on my server.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Personally, I don't see any advantage of playing the actual discs with the C200. I just use my BR Player.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - BanditRider - 06-12-2011 09:43 PM

If you don't update, you can't get any future firmware updates.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - plm - 06-12-2011 09:50 PM

Backups will continue to play fine because these have had the license restrictions removed, but newer BD discs on an internal BD drive may not play if they require a license newer than is on the machine.

You won't get any future firmware updates (for bug fixes, etc.) without applying this one though.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - jrdiandrea - 06-12-2011 10:27 PM

I can't play any flac files at all. When I try it says" Request cannot be processed".. I have all of my flac files on a server and have never had a problem playing them with the Popcorn before the firmware upgrade. Now, when i go into the folders all of the flac files have an ! exclamation point in front of each of them in stead of a music note icon or something. mp3s play fine as always.

Does any one have any suggestions? It is as if the flac files are simply not being recognized......

Thank you for any help

JR


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - halfelite - 06-12-2011 11:28 PM

(06-12-2011 10:27 PM)jrdiandrea Wrote:  I can't play any flac files at all. When I try it says" Request cannot be processed".. I have all of my flac files on a server and have never had a problem playing them with the Popcorn before the firmware upgrade. Now, when i go into the folders all of the flac files have an ! exclamation point in front of each of them in stead of a music note icon or something. mp3s play fine as always.

Does any one have any suggestions? It is as if the flac files are simply not being recognized......

Thank you for any help

JR

If all your flac files have an mark in front of them then you are connecting to a DNLA/upnp server then.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - jrdiandrea - 06-12-2011 11:55 PM

It is a QNAP TS-201 Server. It is upnp configured. Is this a problem? It wasn't before. Any ideas on what I need to do to play them again?

Unfortunately, while i have LOTS of hi-end audio/video gear I am at a disadvantage technically, having very little knowledge of the mechanics of how all of this works.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - halfelite - 06-13-2011 12:00 AM

UPNP/DNLA is a no no they are things that have restrictions and and can encode your things on the fly. The c200 did get some different upnp code added recently dont remember when so that could be your problem. But I would stay away from UPNP. and setup a direct share. using samba. This is how you access it from a pc using the network browser.


RE: [C-200] Firmware 03-04-110530-21-POP-408 (03-04-110520-21-POP-408 Apps) (3.06.2011) - jrdiandrea - 06-13-2011 12:04 AM

Thank you very much for responding. I really appreciate it.

Is there general documentation/directions I can follow to set up a direct share using samba?