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Major Stuttering problem
01-10-2011, 05:59 AM
Post: #1
Major Stuttering problem
Hi all, got my C-200 this morning and very dissappointed.

Majority of my MKV files stutter like hell. SPecifically anything with Dolby Digital / DD+ in it from my ripped HD-DVD collection (I used Make MKV1.6.3)

very disappointed. Army of darkness below - stutters itself to death - Video is ok. ALso field of dreams below that same issus (Both HD-DVD rips) Other disks with Dolby_True_HD play fine...I could really do with some help.

I have a samsung A55-6000 LED LCD connected to a pioneer VSX 1020 amp which plays blurays etc fine other than through PCH.


General
Unique ID : 227228553645630617610482628034857034189 (0xAAF2A0A855D33E7C8D5246F96A3461CD)
Complete name : Z:\Bluray Movies\Army of darkness.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 10.0 GiB
Duration : 1h 20mn
Overall bit rate : 17.7 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-12-24 13:10:03
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.6.3 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.6.3 (0.7.7/0.8.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Codec ID : WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 1h 20mn
Bit rate : 15.8 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.255
Stream size : 8.94 GiB (89%)
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_EAC3
Duration : 1h 20mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -50ms
Stream size : 889 MiB (9%)
Title : 3/2+1
Language : English

Text
ID : 3
Format : VobSub
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : English

General
Unique ID : 287721038495843239551900368938096087181 (0xD8750E6E1038DE06084A0C54C49F508D)
Complete name : Z:\Bluray Movies\Field of dreams.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 14.7 GiB
Duration : 1h 45mn
Overall bit rate : 20.0 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-12-25 07:20:34
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.6.3 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.6.3 (0.7.7/0.8.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Codec ID : WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate : 17.8 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.287
Stream size : 13.2 GiB (89%)
Language : English

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_EAC3
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.13 GiB (8%)
Title : 3/2+1
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_EAC3
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 145 MiB (1%)
Title : 2/0
Language : English

Text
ID : 4
Format : VobSub
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : English
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01-10-2011, 06:05 AM
Post: #2
RE: Major Stuttering problem
did you update to the most recent firmware. there has been problems with VC1 inside mkv in the past but that a firmware release fixed it.
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01-10-2011, 06:09 AM
Post: #3
RE: Major Stuttering problem
(01-10-2011 06:05 AM)halfelite Wrote:  did you update to the most recent firmware. there has been problems with VC1 inside mkv in the past but that a firmware release fixed it.

Yes,

This is the latest firmware.
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01-10-2011, 06:16 AM
Post: #4
RE: Major Stuttering problem
send over network? or internal drive.
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01-10-2011, 06:20 AM
Post: #5
RE: Major Stuttering problem
(01-10-2011 06:16 AM)halfelite Wrote:  send over network? or internal drive.

Apologies,


I am sending it over a network. Gigabit. I have tried both network settings in preferences. (auto / 100/10 etc)

The flowthrough is fine on other movies and there is no VIDEO stutter at all - only audio.

I am currently watching this file without any problems at all - both audio tracks are fine>


General
Unique ID : 86338101201415608076181924698442461631 (0x40F41D0AB37441DF65FFABDC773871BF)
Complete name : Z:\Bluray Movies\Harry Potter 4 - The Goblet of Fire.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 16.5 GiB
Duration : 2h 37mn
Overall bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-10-06 10:35:24
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.6.0 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.6.0 (0.7.7/0.8.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Codec ID : WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 2h 37mn
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Language : English

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_EAC3
Duration : 2h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 583ms
Stream size : 719 MiB (4%)
Title : 3/2+1
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 3 069 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Delay relative to video : 583ms
Title : 5.1
Language : English
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01-10-2011, 06:22 AM
Post: #6
RE: Major Stuttering problem
Try to play the file without network meaning if it's possible to play it within the A200 either moving it to the internal HD or even a USB attached HD.

This will help diagnose whether the issue is caused by network or the player itself.

A200 connected to 32" Samsung UA32C5000
C200 connected to Denon 1610 AVR and 42" LG 42LH50YR
Encore ENHGS-500 5 port Gigabit switch.
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01-10-2011, 06:55 AM
Post: #7
RE: Major Stuttering problem
(01-10-2011 06:22 AM)Dave_D Wrote:  Try to play the file without network meaning if it's possible to play it within the A200 either moving it to the internal HD or even a USB attached HD.

This will help diagnose whether the issue is caused by network or the player itself.

Definently not the network. Same issues - stuttering sound. HD and DTS are playing perfectly from HD-DVD rips and DD+ is fine on films with a HD track AND DD+. Absolutely bizarre behaviour.
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01-10-2011, 07:49 AM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2011 07:49 AM by kurt.)
Post: #8
RE: Major Stuttering problem
maybe a framerate problem? what video output do you choose and is it supported by your TV?

my setup: klick
03-04-120528-21-POP-408-bugfix (C-200)
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01-10-2011, 08:12 AM
Post: #9
RE: Major Stuttering problem
(01-10-2011 07:49 AM)kurt Wrote:  maybe a framerate problem? what video output do you choose and is it supported by your TV?

definently not a framerate issue - TV supports the lot.
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01-10-2011, 07:50 PM
Post: #10
RE: Major Stuttering problem
what did you set as output on PCH? you could try 1080p24 framerate sync on PAL/NTSC/24p or directly 1080p60...

my setup: klick
03-04-120528-21-POP-408-bugfix (C-200)
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01-12-2011, 12:01 PM
Post: #11
RE: Major Stuttering problem
I had a similar problem to you ut with dts ma from blurays re encoded to save on file size.

In the end i had to change the dts ma to flac using software called eac3to.

I know its not an ideal solution but it worked for me.
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01-12-2011, 12:06 PM
Post: #12
RE: Major Stuttering problem
I had the same issue sometimes but after rebooting and set the video to 0 (with the remote control) it works again.

NMT: PCH-C200 - HDMI Chord Silver Plus - DNM Solid Core Cinch Interconnect - Signal Cable Silver Ref Digital Coax
Pioneer VSX-921K Receiver - DAC Asus Xonar Essence One - Focal Sib & SW 700V Sub 5.1
LG TV 42SL9000 - 19Tb Nas Server - Xindak XF2000 Power Conditioner
Firmware: 03-04-120607-21-POP-408 (Public RC) (6.7.2012)
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01-12-2011, 07:02 PM
Post: #13
RE: Major Stuttering problem
I also have this issue

I have 'The Mummy Returns' ripped from my original HDDVD disc, ripped via MakeMKV

No compression and keeping DD+ audio, and the sound stutters all the way through
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09-16-2011, 11:31 PM
Post: #14
RE: Major Stuttering problem
Was there ever a fix/solution for this? Just started to rip HD-DVD to mkv, using MakeMKV and Handbrake. All HD audio codecs are fine except DDPlus!
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