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Hulu on PH
03-03-2009, 08:38 PM
Post: #16
RE: Hulu on PH
Its not powerfull enough to support flash...and it costs money
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03-03-2009, 09:10 PM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2009 09:11 PM by AlexNC.)
Post: #17
RE: Hulu on PH
(03-03-2009 08:38 PM)excal Wrote:  Its not powerful enough to support flash
I keep hearing this Excal. But honestly, I do not understand how this is possible. How can a piece of hardware handle a 1080p video, but not a little SD flash video? What is so different about flash video that makes it so difficult to process?
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03-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Post: #18
RE: Hulu on PH
all the video files you read on your PCH are divx,xvid, mpeg, h/x264 are nativelly decode not by the cpu but by a specific chip , the sigma chip

for flash, for the moment, no sigma chip can be able to play them, so it need to be the main cpu of the PCH to decode flash.
But flash is rather high cpu consuming, for exemple some old pc (700mhz) something cannot read flash video without problem.

And the 300 (or 400)mhz cpu of the popcorn is not powerfull enought

For exemple, for the iphone, youtube developps a totally new portal, in which they totally reencode flash videos in mp4, so that's why pch can play video on youtube.

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03-11-2009, 03:51 AM
Post: #19
RE: Hulu on PH
Actually licensing for flash is free, and they are working with vendors of cell phones etc which have much slower procs than the PCH for online flash viewing.

http://www.openscreenproject.org/

I posted the info in may of last year.
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03-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Post: #20
RE: Hulu on PH
Has anyone seen and tried the Hulu plug-in for Media Center?

http://secondrun.tv/default.asp?action=d...&pageid=71

it is developed (freeware) for MediaCenter PC.
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03-11-2009, 09:10 PM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2009 09:24 PM by excal.)
Post: #21
RE: Hulu on PH
(03-03-2009 09:10 PM)AlexNC Wrote:  I keep hearing this Excal. But honestly, I do not understand how this is possible. How can a piece of hardware handle a 1080p video, but not a little SD flash video? What is so different about flash video that makes it so difficult to process?


If i'm being honest? I donno... I just have seen the question asked a lot and that was always the answer given.

Maybe theres a difference between flash video and flash as a browser input?

I know the PCH doesn't run javascript all that flawlessly, so given that i could assume it'd have a tough time handling flash.

My basic understanding is that the PCH has a cpu of 300mhz thats frankly....slow.

But what it does have is very powerfull video processors with all the codecs built in, so it doesn't need the cpu to do any computing or processing really.

I'm sure thats not the whole story, but thats my basic understanding of it Smile

(and i could be wrong!)
I didn't finish reading before posting, and noticed cairve summed it up fairly nicely. Smile
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03-17-2009, 09:23 PM
Post: #22
RE: Hulu on PH
i don't know if anyone else has this issue but when i ran Hulu the quality was not all that great. not sure if this is because i was using a trial version or if it's simply how it is.

anyone?

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03-18-2009, 02:27 AM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2009 04:06 AM by journey4712.)
Post: #23
RE: Hulu on PH
(03-11-2009 03:51 AM)wired203 Wrote:  Actually licensing for flash is free, and they are working with vendors of cell phones etc which have much slower procs than the PCH for online flash viewing.

http://www.openscreenproject.org/

I posted the info in may of last year.

Not so sure about the slower processor comparrison

The iphone has a 625Mhz Arm processor, I couldn't find alot of data but even going back to 2007 smart phones were being released with 400mhz cpu's. Scary but true, your phone might have twice the general purpose processing power of the NMT.

In other news Hulu recently requested Boxee(HTPC software) remove their software which allows hulu to be played on the television. They have made some changes to the stream(xbmc pages say something about encryption) to prevent xbmc from playing hulu content. I cant see how the NMT would be in a different category than boxee/xbmc so i can see hulu doing more to stop hulu on NMT than help.

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03-18-2009, 04:57 AM
Post: #24
RE: Hulu on PH
(03-18-2009 02:27 AM)journey4712 Wrote:  Not so sure about the slower processor comparrison

The iphone has a 625Mhz Arm processor, I couldn't find alot of data but even going back to 2007 smart phones were being released with 400mhz cpu's. Scary but true, your phone might have twice the general purpose processing power of the NMT.

In other news Hulu recently requested Boxee(HTPC software) remove their software which allows hulu to be played on the television. They have made some changes to the stream(xbmc pages say something about encryption) to prevent xbmc from playing hulu content. I cant see how the NMT would be in a different category than boxee/xbmc so i can see hulu doing more to stop hulu on NMT than help.

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They haven't gone after PlayOn yet, but it's worrying. Hulu has been making a lot of changes that make viewing on PlayOn stop working sometimes. Then, PlayOn releases a quick update to enable functionality again.

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