[CSI] Community Software Installer 2.6.1 (OLD THREAD)

[designcomputer]

Thanks!

"If it's not installed it will download and start appinit. Appinit will install itself. If it's already installed it will not get downloaded and installed again."

So once Appinit is installed and running installprepare will not try and download it again? In other words once you have one app installed you won't see the download timeout issue again.

Do you use wget (with a timeout of thirty seconds) in installprepare to get appinit.cgi? Maybe you can just increase the timeout to sixty seconds. I was usually able to get appinit.cgi manually using a longer timeout. Can you give me a url for installprepare?

[Ger Teunis]

(09-02-2009 02:51 PM)designcomputer Wrote:  So once Appinit is installed and running installprepare will not try and download it again? In other words once you have one app installed you won't see the download timeout issue again.

Except when appinit is going to update itself.
AppInit will do an update check every now and then and upgrade itself accordingly.

(09-02-2009 02:51 PM)designcomputer Wrote:  Do you use wget (with a timeout of thirty seconds) in installprepare to get appinit.cgi? Maybe you can just increase the timeout to sixty seconds. I was usually able to get appinit.cgi manually using a longer timeout. Can you give me a url for installprepare?

Sure; http://repository.nmtinstaller.com/installprepare.cgi

Regarding the timeout; if that is working out for you then you really have some network issues. The 30 second timeout will only trigger when there is no activity at all over 30 seconds (dns, connect or readtimeout). It's not a timeout of the complete transfer, but if there is no activity at all for 30 seconds.

I am interrested in the error message you get from wget when you use i.e. -T 5 orso. I bet you are having DNS issues.

[designcomputer]

I think you are right Ger it is probably a DNS issue. Our AP router acts as a local DNS and the ip resolves quickly on PCs. I will pound on it some more tonight.

[DocDownUnder]

HI Ger



Yep, I sure did, and it just hung there for a long time and then timed out.

I shall try again in about an hour.

Is there anyotherway i can get the file there ( I can connect to the NMT over my network and browse files.

Im at a loss on this one!!


Thanks for your quick response

(09-02-2009 12:37 PM)Ger Teunis Wrote:  Hmm, what is going on here
Did you try removing the file first and then execute the following?

Code:

cd /share
rm -f appinit.cgi
wget http://repository.nmtinstaller.com/appinit.cgi
chmod a+x appinit.cgi
./appinit.cgi

[DocDownUnder]

Hi Ger


I have tried that suggestion a number of times and no luck, im now out of ideas.


Ill keep plugging away at it. Let me know if you think of anything that might be causing this issue.


Thanks for your help

(09-02-2009 09:54 PM)DocDownUnder Wrote:  HI Ger



Yep, I sure did, and it just hung there for a long time and then timed out.

I shall try again in about an hour.

Is there anyotherway i can get the file there ( I can connect to the NMT over my network and browse files.

Im at a loss on this one!!


Thanks for your quick response

[Ger Teunis]

(09-04-2009 11:27 AM)DocDownUnder Wrote:  Hi Ger
I have tried that suggestion a number of times and no luck, im now out of ideas.
Ill keep plugging away at it. Let me know if you think of anything that might be causing this issue.

Okay, what exact error message do you get when wget fails?
You might also want to try the new CSI version published today.

[DocDownUnder]

HI Ger

The error message i get is


Resolving repository.nmtinstaller.com... failed: Name or service not known.


I would post the command prompt but i dont know how to do the copy and past in here.



cheers

(09-04-2009 11:32 AM)Ger Teunis Wrote:  Okay, what exact error message do you get when wget fails?
You might also want to try the new CSI version published today.

[Ger Teunis]

(09-04-2009 12:10 PM)DocDownUnder Wrote:  HI Ger
Resolving repository.nmtinstaller.com... failed: Name or service not known.

That's a dns issue. It seems that your NMT is not able to translate repository.nmtinstaller.com into an ip-address.
Are you able to use the link in your browser?

Please restart all routers and the NMT. For some reason your dns cache isn't able to do get the important dns information from the internet.

Btw> Did the new CSI version work?

[DocDownUnder]

Hi Ger

I can ping the site, but ill reset the NMT and my router.

I shall also try the new CSI version



Thanks


Ill let you know how i get on

(09-04-2009 12:18 PM)Ger Teunis Wrote:  That's a dns issue. It seems that your NMT is not able to translate repository.nmtinstaller.com into an ip-address.
Are you able to use the link in your browser?

Please restart all routers and the NMT. For some reason your dns cache isn't able to do get the important dns information from the internet.

Btw> Did the new CSI version work?

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Ger


Sorry i should have said .. yes i can get to http://repository.nmtinstaller.com/appinit.cgi via my web browser

(09-04-2009 12:50 PM)DocDownUnder Wrote:  Hi Ger

I can ping the site, but ill reset the NMT and my router.

I shall also try the new CSI version



Thanks


Ill let you know how i get on

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Just tried the new CSI version (2.5)

I tried to install the recommended sw lighttpd but this gave me a 404 error, so not good!


I have re set the nmt and the router, but the error is still present

(09-04-2009 12:50 PM)DocDownUnder Wrote:  Hi Ger

I can ping the site, but ill reset the NMT and my router.

I shall also try the new CSI version



Thanks


Ill let you know how i get on

---

Ger


Sorry i should have said .. yes i can get to http://repository.nmtinstaller.com/appinit.cgi via my web browser

(09-04-2009 12:50 PM)DocDownUnder Wrote:  Hi Ger

I can ping the site, but ill reset the NMT and my router.

I shall also try the new CSI version



Thanks


Ill let you know how i get on

[Ger Teunis]

(09-04-2009 12:50 PM)DocDownUnder Wrote:  Just tried the new CSI version (2.5)
I tried to install the recommended sw lighttpd but this gave me a 404 error, so not good!

Please remove any proxy settings in Internet Explorer.
What hardware type do you have configured in CSI, and which one do you really have?

[Ger Teunis]

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Public version is out
Downloads available on the site. You're CSI should update automatically during next start. Click next on the update request.

Contributers note
Users who have the contributers edition installed: please change language to english first (Extra -> Change language) before updating. That version had an update bug which prevented it to update when using a non-english language, which is fixed in the final 2.5.0.0. If you encounter that bug: just remove the CSI folder and redownload CSI via the site, sorry for the inconvenience.

[designcomputer]

Hi Ger,

I don't know if this will help, but here goes. I reset my PCH A110 to factory defaults and installed a brand new hard drive. Then I added the PCH applications using Maintenance / NMT setup wizard. No problems. Then I upgraded to CSI 2.5 and tried to install lighttpd and telnet. Both gave me the 404 errors.

Next I copied the contents of /share/Apps/AppInit directory to /share/Apps/AppInit on the new drive and tried again. Both lighttpd and telnet installed. So it still looks like the original copied or downloaded /share/appinit.cgi file is giving you a problem even with the new version. Anyone who has any apps already installed and work with CSI won't see any problems.

Hang in there!
Dana

[Ger Teunis]

Hi Dana. No; that is a wrong conclusion. We've already tested all this and we agreed upon that wget isn't able to download the file on your nmt.
Wget also told you why: i cannot resove repository.nmtinstaller.com. That domain is used for all application downloads and not for just appinit. Why this is happing is not an error on CSI's side.

Your browser was able to download the file, also my browser, nmt and a lot of other users online today downloaded the cgi file correctly (over 400 install a new one). There are a lot new users every day.

I've even removed my Apps/AppInit and tested from scratch; works without a hickup. Let's be honest; if this was the error a lot more users would have complained, really!

Trust me, 'the system' on CSI side is okay.

(09-04-2009 09:17 PM)designcomputer Wrote:  So it still looks like the original copied or downloaded /share/appinit.cgi file is giving you a problem even with the new version. Anyone who has any apps already installed and work with CSI won't see any problems.

[designcomputer]

(09-04-2009 09:43 PM)Ger Teunis Wrote:  Hi Dana. No; that is a wrong conclusion. We've already tested all this and we agreed upon that wget isn't able to download the file on your nmt.
Wget also told you why: i cannot resove repository.nmtinstaller.com. That domain is used for all application downloads and not for just appinit. Why this is happing is not an error on CSI's side.

I hear you but ...

/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/HARD_DISK # ping repository.nmtinstaller.com
PING repository.nmtinstaller.com (80.86.81.49): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 80.86.81.49: seq=0 ttl=43 time=151.055 ms
64 bytes from 80.86.81.49: seq=1 ttl=43 time=150.359 ms
64 bytes from 80.86.81.49: seq=2 ttl=43 time=150.798 ms

I am not having any problems resolving "repository.nmtinstaller.com" from the PCH. And I was also able to download and install the PCH Apps from Syabas on a new hard drive with default setting all around. Still CSI didn't work until I manually added the Apps/AppInit directory using the samaba connection.

It was my understanding that the newest version didn't download appint.cgi anymore so I was surprised when everything didn't just work.

I agree that the earlier time out problems with wget looked like a DNS resolution issue. Wget works a lot of the time. Thought it takes A LOT
LONGER to resolve than ping does for some reason. And once it works once you have an Apps/AppInit.

/opt/sybhttpd/localhost.drives/HARD_DISK/Apps # wget http://repository.nmtinstal
ler.com/appinit.cgi
--21:02:45-- http://repository.nmtinstaller.com/appinit.cgi
=> `appinit.cgi'
Resolving repository.nmtinstaller.com... 80.86.81.49
Connecting to repository.nmtinstaller.com|80.86.81.49|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 26,955 (26K) [text/plain]

100%[====================================>] 26,955 56.75K/s

21:03:16 (56.50 KB/s) - `appinit.cgi' saved [26955/26955]

Keep in mind I was one of those hundreds of users downloading files over and over again without a successful install. And most of your installed base would not have any problem. Just like I don't have a problem now. CSI works fine because /share/Apps/AppInit is already there.

Then again I could always be wrong or missing something.

I appreciate all your hard work. CSI makes managing user generated application a snap. I am off to send you some $$.

Have a great weekend.
Dana

[Ger Teunis]

(09-04-2009 10:20 PM)designcomputer Wrote:  Keep in mind I was one of those hundreds of users downloading files over and over again without a successful install. And most of your installed base would not have any problem. Just like I don't have a problem now. CSI works fine because /share/Apps/AppInit is already there.

Then again I could always be wrong or missing something.

Stubborn (both)
I meant over 400 unique ip addresses downloaded appinit.cgi _correctly_.
ALso, that http server is hosted by a professional hosting provider. Thus hosted by a server which is also hosting a lot of other sites.

There is nothing more basic then a simple http request what is failing on your side, or at least taking a long time.
I'll forward you problems but I think it's not an issue on the server side and they will not find any issues. Sorry.

Edit: okay, the http request seems to work I guess. I'll investigate the offline install mode further.