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Audio CD Backup
01-29-2011, 01:08 PM
Post: #46
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
(01-29-2011 01:45 AM)chris57 Wrote:  Does it create a cue files for FLAC?Wink

Not yet, but I already asked Werner to make them implement it. Wink

(01-29-2011 08:31 AM)halfelite Wrote:  for all wanting to save to a NAS. why not telnet in and symlink your nas share

Because the app doesn't allow to choose a specific path to rip to. Instead you can just choose a device and the files are being added to the Music folder at the root level of that device. So the symlink would have to be called Music, which interfers with the existing folder.

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01-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Post: #47
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
(01-26-2011 08:48 AM)werner Wrote:  Hi guys sorry for the issue, talked with the firmware team and they told me that the A2xx firmware doesn't have the CD Backup library like C-200, we will include the needed libary with the next firmware update.

Will the lib be included with the firmware-/ or nmt-apps-update?
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01-29-2011, 02:12 PM
Post: #48
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
(01-26-2011 08:48 AM)werner Wrote:  they told me that the A2xx firmware doesn't have the CD Backup library

Now guess. Wink

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01-29-2011, 03:17 PM
Post: #49
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
(01-29-2011 02:12 PM)-Coco- Wrote:  Now guess. Wink

Uhh, that's going to become *very* difficult.

Sorry, for the question -- have a nice weekend. :-)
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01-30-2011, 01:49 AM
Post: #50
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
Sorry, and probably a silly question.

But what is the difference between flac or wam? What gives the better results? What would you reccommend for backing up audio cd's?

Thanks
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01-30-2011, 02:21 AM
Post: #51
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
great app...how about we fix the FW flaws in A110 first?

eg SMB streaming of music and VOB?

Just a thought Cool

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01-30-2011, 11:05 AM
Post: #52
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
mrdenn1s: This app isn't even available on the 100-series, so if you want to discuss your thoughts on Syabas' maintenance and development prioritization I suggest you start a separate thread.
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01-30-2011, 05:34 PM
Post: #53
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
(01-30-2011 01:49 AM)ttb Wrote:  But what is the difference between flac or wam? What gives the better results? What would you reccommend for backing up audio cd's?

WAV is a pure copy of the audio data on CD, stored in a playable container and therefore consumes the same hd space as a CD image would.

MP3 reduces the audio data by leaving out frequencies that are hard to hear. Depending from the bitrate, more or less information is left out and therefore smaller file size goes hand in hand with worse quality. A bitrate of 128 kbit/s roughly results in 10% of the size of a WAV file.

For those wanting perfect (i.e. unreduced) quality, FLAC is a good choice, because it applies lossless compression, meaning that the audio data is represented in a more compact form compared to WAV, but no information is lost in contrast to MP3. Optimal FLAC compressors can reduce the data to about 50% the size of a WAV file. However, this app achieves about 70%, most likely because better compression would be even slower.

So if all your audio players are capable of FLAC playback, FLAC is the format to choose. It is superior to WAV in means of file size while quality is identical. Furthermore, the FLAC format allows to add tags and a CD cover. Smile

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02-01-2011, 10:20 PM
Post: #54
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
Attractive, thanx

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02-03-2011, 04:26 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2011 09:10 PM by mighty 5nake.)
Post: #55
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
(01-30-2011 05:34 PM)-Coco- Wrote:  WAV is a pure copy of the audio data on CD, stored in a playable container and therefore consumes the same hd space as a CD image would.

MP3 reduces the audio data by leaving out frequencies that are hard to hear. Depending from the bitrate, more or less information is left out and therefore smaller file size goes hand in hand with worse quality. A bitrate of 128 kbit/s roughly results in 10% of the size of a WAV file.

For those wanting perfect (i.e. unreduced) quality, FLAC is a good choice, because it applies lossless compression, meaning that the audio data is represented in a more compact form compared to WAV, but no information is lost in contrast to MP3. Optimal FLAC compressors can reduce the data to about 50% the size of a WAV file. However, this app achieves about 70%, most likely because better compression would be even slower.

So if all your audio players are capable of FLAC playback, FLAC is the format to choose. It is superior to WAV in means of file size while quality is identical. Furthermore, the FLAC format allows to add tags and a CD cover. Smile

and this is what i call, a simple, and verry understandable explenation about the FLAC / MP3 /WAV format difference , thnx for educating us friend ! +1 (srry for typo's)

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02-03-2011, 05:47 PM
Post: #56
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
You're most welcome. I'm happy you found it useful. Smile

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02-05-2011, 11:30 AM
Post: #57
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
Hi,

Great app, but is there a way to configure the directory- and filename structure that is created? It now works as:

Directory: Artist - Album
Files: sequence.artist-song

I would want to change that to:

Directory: Artist
Subdirectory: Album
Files: sequence - song

Any help is appreciated.

Cheers, Rob
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02-07-2011, 12:10 PM
Post: #58
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
Nice App,

but I tried to BK some CD's and the app hangs on after completing song 3 to flac.
no response what so ever.

Is it possible to start a BK and switch so the file browser so you can watch a movie while you wait.
I tried but my PCH-c200 started playing the CD, when I try to switch back the app hangs.

also it would by nice if you can tell where the music is backed up.

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02-09-2011, 08:43 PM
Post: #59
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
Sounds good for archiving your old CD collection.

Too bad I've already done it and don't use CDs anymore. Sad
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02-09-2011, 11:36 PM
Post: #60
RE: [Apps] Audio CD Backup
(02-05-2011 11:30 AM)rkriekaard Wrote:  Hi,

Great app, but is there a way to configure the directory- and filename structure that is created? It now works as:

Directory: Artist - Album
Files: sequence.artist-song

I would want to change that to:

Directory: Artist
Subdirectory: Album
Files: sequence - song

Any help is appreciated.

Cheers, Rob

I'm struggling to see any value in the feature at the moment, but can see where it mimics the tranquil products and might be useful on future, more advanced end-user products. Ones that work out of the box without a degree in Linux etc. Ones that dont cause pain when you need to work on the drive for instance. Tongue I'd rather the basics of the C200 were sorted personally (gapless flac and mp3 for me; blu-ray for others, and some better inbilt tools for recovery of disk partitions without plopping it in a PC. I've still got a Linux PC partition with a user named 'nmt' to simplify partition/reformat.... thats no use for the mass market though confused How could my granny be expected to buy one of these ? ).

I'd assume we all have PCs and would suggest you'd be better just using EAC / LAME to rip your CDs in the format you want then plop them n the directory structure you want. Tag and Rename does a great job of tidying the tags into a format/style that you prefer and it all works pretty quick. I'm sure there will be other good products bu those do me, alongside Foobar for flac work. And they're all free !
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