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Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
01-17-2009, 11:35 PM
Post: #1
Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
Can anyone answer these 2 questions.

(1) Will I be able to play BLU-RAY files/ISO's directly from the Popcorn Hour A-110's Harddisk without any loss in quality, and at 1080p/24 fps?

(2) Will I be able to connect via HDMi to my Yamaha RX-V3800 Surround Amp and get full HD Audio such as DTS-HD Master Audio etc?

Thanks

Dale.
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01-18-2009, 12:25 AM
Post: #2
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
No, they would have to be converted into another format (e.g. MKV).

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01-18-2009, 02:37 AM
Post: #3
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
You can play the .m2ts or re-mux to .ts to keep the quality.
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01-18-2009, 03:25 AM
Post: #4
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-18-2009 02:37 AM)Wildcard30 Wrote:  You can play the .m2ts or re-mux to .ts to keep the quality.

Wildcard30 thanks for that, this is what I needed know before I buy an A-110, you say you can play .m2ts or remux to ts, what is the difference in using each file type, I have only just come across all of this so really don't know alot about it I assume I will need a Bluray reader and some software to rip the files to Harddisk? I just want to keep the quality at 100% for the Video and the Audio.

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01-18-2009, 04:18 AM
Post: #5
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-18-2009 03:25 AM)bladerunner2125 Wrote:  Wildcard30 thanks for that, this is what I needed know before I buy an A-110, you say you can play .m2ts or remux to ts, what is the difference in using each file type, I have only just come across all of this so really don't know alot about it I assume I will need a Bluray reader and some software to rip the files to Harddisk? I just want to keep the quality at 100% for the Video and the Audio.

Thanks

Dale
No diff between the two. Just navigate to the STREAM folder of your ripped files directory and play the biggest m2ts file you see. If there are multiple smaller files then you can join them together. Do a forum search for details.

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01-18-2009, 04:40 AM
Post: #6
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-18-2009 04:18 AM)cdx47 Wrote:  No diff between the two. Just navigate to the STREAM folder of your ripped files directory and play the biggest m2ts file you see. If there are multiple smaller files then you can join them together. Do a forum search for details.
Thats good to know, thanks for the info.
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01-18-2009, 06:01 AM
Post: #7
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
yep, it's going to look and sound just as good as a stand alone blu-ray player (no audio/video quality loss). the only thing you don't get is the menus and stuff. that was my main concern before buying the popcorn hour too. you'll be very happy....
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01-18-2009, 06:11 AM
Post: #8
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-18-2009 06:01 AM)kenrippy Wrote:  yep, it's going to look and sound just as good as a stand alone blu-ray player (no audio/video quality loss). the only thing you don't get is the menus and stuff. that was my main concern before buying the popcorn hour too. you'll be very happy....

Kenrippy what about the HD DTS MATSTER AUDIO etc from the A-110 to a HD Reciever like a Yamaha Rx-v3800 does this function the same as a stand alone Bluray player outputting the audio in bitstream format over HDMi, I will not be doing any network streaming at all just direct into the Amp via HDMi? this device is looking like something I have been waiting for.

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01-18-2009, 06:35 AM (This post was last modified: 01-18-2009 06:36 AM by kenrippy.)
Post: #9
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-18-2009 06:11 AM)bladerunner2125 Wrote:  Kenrippy what about the HD DTS MATSTER AUDIO etc from the A-110 to a HD Reciever like a Yamaha Rx-v3800 does this function the same as a stand alone Bluray player outputting the audio in bitstream format over HDMi, I will not be doing any network streaming at all just direct into the Amp via HDMi? this device is looking like something I have been waiting for.

Thanks

Dale.

If your receiver can decode it, as mine can (onkyo 605) then you're golden. I'm not familiar with your receiver's capabilities though. But, it will be exactly as if you're playing a blu-ray disc from a stand alone player (minus the menus etc.)

You will be setting the PCH to output audio in "RAW" format. Be sure you're using an HDMI v1.3 cable. I believe the PCH comes with an updated HDMI cable too....

Network streaming is just an added bonus. Rip a Blu-ray disc on the pc, and stream the desired files directly to the PCH > AV receiver > TV.

I've had the PCH A110 for about 3-4 months and I'm really loving all the things it can do for me. I don't even take advantage of all of it's goodies either...
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01-18-2009, 06:46 AM
Post: #10
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-18-2009 06:35 AM)kenrippy Wrote:  If your receiver can decode it, as mine can (onkyo 605) then you're golden. I'm not familiar with your receiver's capabilities though. But, it will be exactly as if you're playing a blu-ray disc from a stand alone player (minus the menus etc.)

You will be setting the PCH to output audio in "RAW" format. Be sure you're using an HDMI v1.3 cable. I believe the PCH comes with an updated HDMI cable too....

Network streaming is just an added bonus. Rip a Blu-ray disc on the pc, and stream the desired files directly to the PCH > AV receiver > TV.

I've had the PCH A110 for about 3-4 months and I'm really loving all the things it can do for me. I don't even take advantage of all of it's goodies either...

So it plays at full 1080p/24fps with HD DTS Master Audio through HDMi now thats what I call useful, I think I may have to get my hands on one.

Thanks for the help.

Dale.
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01-22-2009, 07:29 PM
Post: #11
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-18-2009 06:46 AM)bladerunner2125 Wrote:  So it plays at full 1080p/24fps with HD DTS Master Audio through HDMi now thats what I call useful, I think I may have to get my hands on one.

Thanks for the help.

Dale.

This is what I am wanting to do as well. Does anyone have a tutorial or something along those lines on how to rip Blu Ray to hard disk in a way that PCH will be able to use it? Software, format, etc.
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01-22-2009, 08:59 PM
Post: #12
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
(01-22-2009 07:29 PM)AnthonyD3 Wrote:  This is what I am wanting to do as well. Does anyone have a tutorial or something along those lines on how to rip Blu Ray to hard disk in a way that PCH will be able to use it? Software, format, etc.

Do a search on the forums, plenty of info Smile I've just posted a guide based on my experiences over on AVForums too, in the media streamers section.
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01-23-2009, 04:10 AM
Post: #13
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
Here's a hint:

- A PC with a Blu-ray / HD-DVD reader (check out LG's drives at NewEgg.com)
- SlySoft AnyDVD HD (to remove AACS on-the-fly from copy-protected discs)
- A utility called eac3to (it's a cmdline app, but there are GUIs for it)

Some Blu-ray discs have a single file (x:\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts, for example) that is 10-30GB. That's usually all you need. You can just copy this file.

Some Blu-ray discs have "seamless branching" where there are multiple smaller M2TS files. Here, you need eac3to (or a similar utility) to follow the playlist and combine the parts. (You can run "eac3to x:", where X: is your BD-ROM, to get a list of playlists and their contents...)

HD-DVDs have one or more .EVO file(s) that is large enough to be your movie. If there are more than one, best thing to do is use eac3to to rip the movie for you. Because the PCH is based on a chip for Blu-ray players, EVO support is iffy. You may need to strip the streams, and possibly convert them to differet types. See the following:

When you're done ripping, you can end up with a copy of the original file, or with the individual streams, or convert (on-the-fly) the streams into something else (like DTS-HD MA into DTS, TrueHD or DD+ into AC3, LPCM into DTS, or whatever..) If you rip streams, you need TSMuxeR, TSRemux, or MKVmerge to put them back into a single file. Each app has its strengths and weaknesses. The former two are for making [M2]TS files; the latter for MKV. Read up to decide which is for you.

That should answer enough to give you the right questions to ask. Or search for. ;-)
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01-23-2009, 06:26 AM (This post was last modified: 01-23-2009 06:29 AM by cdx47.)
Post: #14
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
OR.....

After ripping the file to disk you go to the User Generated Apps section of this forum and download a utility called ToNMT Smile. This tool automatically converts the file in question to a PCH friendly format. This is of course more useful for hddvd rather than Blu Ray since Popcorn can play the m2ts files. I think it also deals with Seamless branching too ! TrueHD is the only problem but you can run your file through another tool called T4np (I think?) afterwards to fix that.

Check out the ToNMT forum for more details Smile

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01-23-2009, 05:40 PM
Post: #15
RE: Can I Play BLU-RAY Files?
Are you trying to imply that some people DON'T prefer doing everything the hard way? Big Grin
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