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Poll: Do you agree you have received an unfinished product?
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Yes 52.10% 186 52.10%
No 47.90% 171 47.90%
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New firmware... when!
02-03-2009, 08:23 AM
Post: #151
RE: New firmware... when!
I find it much more important to have a well tested new firmware then a semi-tested one that is released to early because there are some crying babies on the support forum.

If you don't like 'finished products with expandable firmware features', you should only buy products without technology. (drill, screwdriver, ...)

Unless the current firmware would be really annoying to watch movies (which it isn't !!! ), the new firmware is a gift to us, users, that makes the PCH we bought even better.
Remember: you bought it the way it was, and you get a better one after every update, for free!
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02-03-2009, 04:45 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2009 04:49 PM by Scottk.)
Post: #152
RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 08:23 AM)McJe Wrote:  I find it much more important to have a well tested new firmware then a semi-tested one that is released to early because there are some crying babies on the support forum.

If you don't like 'finished products with expandable firmware features', you should only buy products without technology. (drill, screwdriver, ...)

Unless the current firmware would be really annoying to watch movies (which it isn't !!! ), the new firmware is a gift to us, users, that makes the PCH we bought even better.
Remember: you bought it the way it was, and you get a better one after every update, for free!

Hey, I have a bridge to sell you... And for a really GOOD price too!!!

Psst... I have a little news flash for you...

These aren't "free" updates. We paid money for a product that isn't finished and has many MANY bugs/errors. These updates are to fix errors they had in their product.

If they DIDN'T have updates to fix THEIR BUGS, they would have a TON of returns, and no new customers.

Would you be happy with a TV if you bought it, and it turned itself off halfway through a movie?

Or would you be happy if your car just sometimes "forgot" to brake when you pressed the brakes?
Ah heck, who needs reliable brakes anyway???
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02-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Post: #153
RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 08:23 AM)McJe Wrote:  If you don't like 'finished products with expandable firmware features', you should only buy products without technology. (drill, screwdriver, ...)

Sorry, but that is absolute nonsense.
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02-03-2009, 05:03 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2009 05:05 PM by Willem53.)
Post: #154
RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 04:45 PM)Scottk Wrote:  Hey, I have a bridge to sell you... And for a really GOOD price too!!!

Psst... I have a little news flash for you...

These aren't "free" updates. We paid money for a product that isn't finished and has many MANY bugs/errors. These updates are to fix errors they had in their product.

If they DIDN'T have updates to fix THEIR BUGS, they would have a TON of returns, and no new customers.

Would you be happy with a TV if you bought it, and it turned itself off halfway through a movie?

Or would you be happy if your car just sometimes "forgot" to brake when you pressed the brakes?
Ah heck, who needs reliable brakes anyway???

all features and functionality claimed at the date of your purchase were delivered.
The rest is expectations and assumptions, the fact that the manufacturer lets you share in the improvement of the product without selling you a new box is to his credit and not some god given right that we have.

to set your examples strait, if your TV doesn't get a compatible signal half way a show it will give you snow to watch... crap in crap out. I dont feed my PCH stuff that will make it fail...

as for the car ever seen a aftermarket upgrade for ABS?

Check the feature list on the PCH website and read what is actualy supported or check the WiKi
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/i...ed_Formats


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The inability to setup and configure the NMT should not be disguised as a defect of the box...
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02-03-2009, 06:02 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2009 06:10 PM by alambra.)
Post: #155
Exclamation RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 05:03 PM)Willem53 Wrote:  all features and functionality claimed at the date of your purchase were delivered.

Here's one feature i copied from the official website :
Quote:The A-110 firmware is upgradeable to support future media containers, codecs and features.
http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/i...tegory_id=

It's clearly a selling point saying : you buy an upgradeable product.
You buy current features and functionalities but also future ones.
I think many customers chose the popcorn (for example) and not another one because of possible new features.

(02-03-2009 05:03 PM)Willem53 Wrote:  The rest is expectations and assumptions, the fact that the manufacturer lets you share in the improvement of the product without selling you a new box is to his credit and not some god given right that we have.

When you write you sell an upgradeable product, you obviously create expectations and assumptions from the customers and you should assume them or it would be lying to them.
How is it possible to blame them then ? They are just asking firmware upgrades and it's a basic right then not a god's given one Exclamation

(02-03-2009 05:03 PM)Willem53 Wrote:  to set your examples strait, if your TV doesn't get a compatible signal half way a show it will give you snow to watch... crap in crap out. I dont feed my PCH stuff that will make it fail...

as for the car ever seen a aftermarket upgrade for ABS?

Sorry but when i bought my car and my TV, the salesmen never sold me an upgradeable product. Rolleyes

I'm a bit bored of reading non-objective critics and sacarms against complaining customers on this community esp. from moderators.
Is it the moderator's role to track down all the unsatisfied customers and to try to ridicule them ?

The situation is very simple :
they claim they sell an upgradeable product => they have impatient and demanding customers.
Let them ask ...
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02-03-2009, 06:27 PM
Post: #156
RE: New firmware... when!
alambra: Of course everyone has the right to request features (note there's a dedicated forum section for that purpose) and express impatience with the time to implement them (as long as we refrain from flaming, campaigning and the sorts).

But Scottk's response that Willem53 quoted didn't really contain a feature request? And as far as for a question it was more of an analogy which may or may not be applicable for this product.

So what would your suggestion be for moderation or response in this case: silence?
I think Willem53 response was not sarcastic nor ridiculing, but that's me.

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02-03-2009, 06:45 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2009 06:45 PM by emveepee.)
Post: #157
RE: New firmware... when!
The best way to answer this question is with a question. If Syabas said that there would be no new firmware updates for the A100 or A110 would you be satisfied? The basic improvements I wanted looked at still exist, UI speed, mpeg playback especially mpeg-ts and a few others, but each firmware update has shown that other things that I will never use have much higher priority, so now I just accept that the PCH is what it is, with some regret that the current generation of machines have a potential that will likely never be realized. Unfortunately this isn't uncommon with media extenders. I bought my first PCH a year ago, and didn't return it, so I don't have any right to complain now.

Martin
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02-03-2009, 07:16 PM
Post: #158
RE: New firmware... when!
So far I am happy with the product, I am only disappointed about the wireless freezing issues and torrent crashes when downloading more than 4-5 torrents
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02-03-2009, 07:23 PM
Post: #159
RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 06:45 PM)emveepee Wrote:  (...) with some regret that the current generation of machines have a potential that will likely never be realized.

Sadly, I must concur. I hope to be proven wrong.

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02-03-2009, 08:20 PM
Post: #160
RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 05:03 PM)Willem53 Wrote:  all features and functionality claimed at the date of your purchase were delivered.

Really?

> Other formats: ISO, IFO

So you consider that skipping/locking up of ISO's is functioning correctly?

As for other "features" that don't exist, but should, say random/shuffle play, recurse subdirectories, resume...

Apparently ASSUMING that such basic features would be in a product like this, (that even my $30 dvd player can do), is just too much to ask for...

BTW, the feature of "Turning the device on" isn't listed on their web page either...

So I guess I should just be ECSTATIC that the unit turns on!
W00h00!!! Score one for the PCH!
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02-03-2009, 10:12 PM
Post: #161
RE: New firmware... when!
This thread used to be about the release of the new firmware, and if we would be lucky enough, we'd get some info on when it would be done.

Seems that possibility is over, damn trolls Sad
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02-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Post: #162
RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 10:12 PM)tisti Wrote:  This thread used to be about the release of the new firmware, and if we would be lucky enough, we'd get some info on when it would be done.

If you read the thread starting with the first post, the poll question and the thread title don't match at all. It really was never about the "next" firmware.

Martin
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02-03-2009, 11:30 PM
Post: #163
RE: New firmware... when!
(02-03-2009 10:12 PM)tisti Wrote:  This thread used to be about the release of the new firmware, and if we would be lucky enough, we'd get some info on when it would be done.

Seems that possibility is over, damn trolls Sad

I did mail Syabas and they said "Probably next week"
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02-03-2009, 11:42 PM
Post: #164
RE: New firmware... when!
Good time to end the thread then with an answer.

Thread closed.

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