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ToNMT UI - for converting HD DVD and BluRay
02-26-2008, 05:01 AM (This post was last modified: 03-05-2009 05:54 PM by dburckh.)
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ToNMT UI - for converting HD DVD and BluRay
This is an offshoot of RemuxTool that converts HD DVD and BluRay disks to a more NMT/PopcornHour friendly format. For BluRay it mostly just trims the fat. It does quite a bit more for HD DVD.
At a minimum you are going to need:
  1. Java Runtime Environment 6.0 or greater (http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp)
  2. ToNMT 5.4.3 (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jjyzmzddw33)
  3. I've included the latest eac3to by Madshi and TsMuxer by SmartLabs in this download.
If you are going to use Auto Source, you need a UDF 2.5 driver installed. This comes with Vista, but you have install it on XP. Looks like you can get it here http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/X...page1.html

If you are going to convert HD DVDs, you'll need some temp space. The tool defaults to using C:\RemuxTool for temp. These files will take up to 30 GB, so make sure you have the space. You can change this in the preferences.

How to use
  1. To run the app, double click ToNMT.cmd
  2. The UI will popup and you just click Auto Source. This should find an HD DVD's or BluRay that are mounted.
  3. If there are multiple titles, you will get a popup with the available titles, their length and the playlist file. For BluRay, you may have to pick the one that has the time closest to the time on the box.
  4. Click an audio stream
  5. Click Save As to select the output file name and start processing. I recommend .ts as it is the smallest, but .m2ts works as well. ToNMT will then demux/remux, transcode and mux as necessary.
See the Wiki page for more info! (Thanks klieber)
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02-26-2008, 11:15 PM
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Glad to hear you are feeling better and thank you for your hard work...
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02-29-2008, 09:33 AM
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I tested it on 2 HD-DVD rips and doesn't work correctly on 2...

1) First (Picture This, from MDP, a snowboard video). The video is 1920x1080 VC-1 (4Gb Full HD, 30 minutes aprox.), it seems that it's correct, but when I view the full video, the music (there's no dialog, only music) stops 4 o 5 minutes until ends... (not synchronized correctly)

2) The other HDDVD, the video is 60fps and the audio DD+ 24fps. The program change the fps on the video to put like the audio and, the video goes slowmotion (original duration about 2 hours, duration of the movie.ts: 5 hours).
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02-29-2008, 06:33 PM
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surfzone Wrote:I tested it on 2 HD-DVD rips and doesn't work correctly on 2...

1) First (Picture This, from MDP, a snowboard video). The video is 1920x1080 VC-1 (4Gb Full HD, 30 minutes aprox.), it seems that it's correct, but when I view the full video, the music (there's no dialog, only music) stops 4 o 5 minutes until ends... (not synchronized correctly)

2) The other HDDVD, the video is 60fps and the audio DD+ 24fps. The program change the fps on the video to put like the audio and, the video goes slowmotion (original duration about 2 hours, duration of the movie.ts: 5 hours).

Yeah, the tool assumes that you are trying to convert a "normal" HD DVD movie which is 24000/1001 fps. For whatever reason HD DVD state they are 30000/1001 fps, so I force it to 24000/1001 fps. I'll add an option to disable this in the next release.

You are probably going to have to do both of them manually for now.

If you could post the streams detected in 1, I can give you a process to convert it.

As for 2, you can open the RemuxToolUI, select the .EVO(s), select the streams you want, select Save As... "Video PES and Audio Raw"
From the command line convert the DD+ audio to ac3 with "eac3to outfile.ac3". Open TsMuxerUI, add both streams (Video and outfile.ac3) and remux it. Or just wait for the next release. Smile
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02-29-2008, 07:03 PM
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dburckh Wrote:Yeah, the tool assumes that you are trying to convert a "normal" HD DVD movie which is 24000/1001 fps. For whatever reason HD DVD state they are 30000/1001 fps, so I force it to 24000/1001 fps. I'll add an option to disable this in the next release.


You should add an option to remove pull down flag for those that use 24Hz output on their NMT or they will get stutter when using your tool. It doesn't effect those, like me, who have 60Hz displays. Just a thought. I'm baked.


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02-29-2008, 09:04 PM
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EPiPHON3 Wrote:
dburckh Wrote:Yeah, the tool assumes that you are trying to convert a "normal" HD DVD movie which is 24000/1001 fps. For whatever reason HD DVD state they are 30000/1001 fps, so I force it to 24000/1001 fps. I'll add an option to disable this in the next release.


You should add an option to remove pull down flag for those that use 24Hz output on their NMT or they will get stutter when using your tool. It doesn't effect those, like me, who have 60Hz displays. Just a thought. I'm baked.


8)

To do it right, I think you would have to remove both the interlace, the pulldown flag and change the framerate. I have some code (in another program) that does this, but I get corrupted video as a result (in PowerDVD). Since I also have a 60Hz display I've never seen this flicker.

Do you know of anything that removes the pulldown flag successfully? If I can see the delta, it's possible that I could add this. The only thing I know that's close is vc1conv. It only removes the interlace flag and resets the framerate. Removing the pulldown flag cause you have have to bitshift the entire video stream, which is a P.I.T.A.
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02-29-2008, 09:42 PM
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dburckh Wrote:
EPiPHON3 Wrote:
dburckh Wrote:Yeah, the tool assumes that you are trying to convert a "normal" HD DVD movie which is 24000/1001 fps. For whatever reason HD DVD state they are 30000/1001 fps, so I force it to 24000/1001 fps. I'll add an option to disable this in the next release.


You should add an option to remove pull down flag for those that use 24Hz output on their NMT or they will get stutter when using your tool. It doesn't effect those, like me, who have 60Hz displays. Just a thought. I'm baked.


8)

To do it right, I think you would have to remove both the interlace, the pulldown flag and change the framerate. I have some code (in another program) that does this, but I get corrupted video as a result (in PowerDVD). Since I also have a 60Hz display I've never seen this flicker.

Do you know of anything that removes the pulldown flag successfully? If I can see the delta, it's possible that I could add this. The only thing I know that's close is vc1conv. It only removes the interlace flag and resets the framerate. Removing the pulldown flag cause you have have to bitshift the entire video stream, which is a P.I.T.A.

Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of vc1conv. All you have to do is do whatever vc1conv does. It seems to eliminate the 24Hz stutter problem.

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02-29-2008, 10:06 PM
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EPiPHON3 Wrote:
dburckh Wrote:
EPiPHON3 Wrote:
dburckh Wrote:Yeah, the tool assumes that you are trying to convert a "normal" HD DVD movie which is 24000/1001 fps. For whatever reason HD DVD state they are 30000/1001 fps, so I force it to 24000/1001 fps. I'll add an option to disable this in the next release.


You should add an option to remove pull down flag for those that use 24Hz output on their NMT or they will get stutter when using your tool. It doesn't effect those, like me, who have 60Hz displays. Just a thought. I'm baked.


8)

To do it right, I think you would have to remove both the interlace, the pulldown flag and change the framerate. I have some code (in another program) that does this, but I get corrupted video as a result (in PowerDVD). Since I also have a 60Hz display I've never seen this flicker.

Do you know of anything that removes the pulldown flag successfully? If I can see the delta, it's possible that I could add this. The only thing I know that's close is vc1conv. It only removes the interlace flag and resets the framerate. Removing the pulldown flag cause you have have to bitshift the entire video stream, which is a P.I.T.A.

Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of vc1conv. All you have to do is do whatever vc1conv does. It seems to eliminate the 24Hz stutter problem.

Yeah, Ron (the guy who wrote vc1conv) and I chatted a bit about it. He gave me some ideas, but I haven't followed up because ToNMT works for me. Smile
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02-29-2008, 10:38 PM
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dburckh Wrote:
EPiPHON3 Wrote:
dburckh Wrote:
EPiPHON3 Wrote:
dburckh Wrote:Yeah, the tool assumes that you are trying to convert a "normal" HD DVD movie which is 24000/1001 fps. For whatever reason HD DVD state they are 30000/1001 fps, so I force it to 24000/1001 fps. I'll add an option to disable this in the next release.


You should add an option to remove pull down flag for those that use 24Hz output on their NMT or they will get stutter when using your tool. It doesn't effect those, like me, who have 60Hz displays. Just a thought. I'm baked.


8)

To do it right, I think you would have to remove both the interlace, the pulldown flag and change the framerate. I have some code (in another program) that does this, but I get corrupted video as a result (in PowerDVD). Since I also have a 60Hz display I've never seen this flicker.

Do you know of anything that removes the pulldown flag successfully? If I can see the delta, it's possible that I could add this. The only thing I know that's close is vc1conv. It only removes the interlace flag and resets the framerate. Removing the pulldown flag cause you have have to bitshift the entire video stream, which is a P.I.T.A.

Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of vc1conv. All you have to do is do whatever vc1conv does. It seems to eliminate the 24Hz stutter problem.

Yeah, Ron (the guy who wrote vc1conv) and I chatted a bit about it. He gave me some ideas, but I haven't followed up because ToNMT works for me. Smile

Well, you may want to start following it up cause there are going to be more and more people using your tool in the future and a lot of them will have 24Hz displays but of course it's all up to you.

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03-01-2008, 02:52 AM
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Re: ToNMT UI edition
dburckh Wrote:We'll here's enough rope to hang yourself with...

What's new?
  1. Added UI for ToNMT
  2. Allowed user to select any audio stream
  3. Fixed some issues with the progress bar
Just click ToNmt.cmd. The rest should be fairly obvious. The CLI should still work, but I suspect it will die off.

I tested an HD DVD and a BluRay both appeared to work. Haven't fixed the false "core" bug on HD DVD.

http://rapidshare.com/files/94977572/Rem...7.zip.html[/list]

We'll I'm pretty much over my cold, so it's back to work tomorrow. That'll really put a damper on fixes/enhancement.

Great Job! The GUI is really nice. Well done
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03-02-2008, 07:57 PM
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Any way you could upload toNMT to something else than rapidshare ? It's reached download limit so I can't get it. You could use Mediafire, which is permanent and has no download limits either (you might have to change the extension of the file though).

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03-03-2008, 01:17 AM
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e-motion Wrote:Any way you could upload toNMT to something else than rapidshare ? It's reached download limit so I can't get it. You could use Mediafire, which is permanent and has no download limits either (you might have to change the extension of the file though).

Yeah, I can do that. I didn't know there was a limit. I wonder why people had stopped using it on other forums.
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03-03-2008, 07:30 AM
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ToNMT 3.1
I just posted version 3.1

Here's what's new:
  1. Added back timestamp correction support for merging multiple BluRay M2TSes. This is necessary for multi-file and seamless branching titles.
  2. Changed the input files list to be editable after selection of multiple files to work-around a file selector issue
  3. Added the ability to not force HD DVDs to Film.
ToDo (likely)
  1. Fix bogus "core" detection on some HD DVDs
  2. "Properly" demux LPCM streams
  3. Subtitle support
  4. Figure out the problem with dts transcoding
ToDo (Unlikely)
  1. Remove the VC-1 interlace and pulldown flags. This requires redoing the entire video stream.
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03-03-2008, 07:47 AM
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^thanks 8)
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03-03-2008, 08:02 AM
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MOVED to user generated apps forum... Smile

thanks db for all these goodies.. cheers

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