DVD Folder Structure/VIDEO_TS and multi-disc sets

[deh2k7]

Hi all -

I'm trying to get a consistent (and fully complete) answer for how to best manage multidisc boxsets, individual movies, and TV Series. I want to make it clear that I'm not looking rename VOB's, merge them, or go through any other unnatural means to alter a straight DVD rip to folder structure. I want to make sure that I have the right naming conventions set up for them to appear properly in PCH.

I'm happy to collate all responses and pass the info along to the proper person to update the wiki.

Let's start with the simplest cases to the most complex:

A single movie with 2 or more discs for the movie itself, i.e. Lawrence of Arabia. How should one set up the folder structure? This is how I have been typically ripping them.

c:\movies\Lawrence of Arabia
c:\movies\Lawrence of Arabia\Disc 1
c:\movies\Lawrence of Arabia\Disc 1\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Lawrence of Arabia\Disc 2
c:\movies\Lawrence of Arabia\Disc 2\VIDEO_TS


Nex Case - A DVD Box Set. This is how I have done it so far:
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 1 - Scream
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 1 - Scream\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 2 - Scream 2
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 2 - Scream 2\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 3 - Scream 3
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 3 - Scream 3\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 4 - Scream Bonus Disc
c:\movies\The Scream Trilogy\Disc 4 - Scream Bonus Disc\VIDEO_TS

A DVD Box Set with multidisc movies, like extended LOTR or the Godfather:

C\movies\The Godfather Collection
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 1 - The Godfather
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 1 - The Godfather\VIDEO_TS
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 2 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 1)
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 2 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 1)\VIDEO_TS
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 3 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 2)
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 3 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 2)\VIDEO_TS
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 4 - The Godfather Part 3
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 4 - The Godfather Part 3\VIDEO_TS

Finally, a TV Series with multiple Seasons:
c:\movies\Alias
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 1
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 1\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 2
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 2\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 3
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 3\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 4
c:\movies\Alias\Season 1\Disc 4\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 1
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 1\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 2
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 2\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 3
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 3\VIDEO_TS
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 4
c:\movies\Alias\Season 2\Disc 4\VIDEO_TS

I appreciate everyone's patience to a newb, and I hope to have a clear set of examples after this discussion so that we can share with the rest of the community.

[garp99]

Asked and answered: YAMJ Wiki

Boxed sets
File Naming
Multi-Part Videos
NFO Files
TV Series Naming

[texags2008]

in short, add CDx, DISCx, DISKx or PARTx after each part of the video file. for tv shows put SxxExxExxExx...

videos\film [cd2]\VIDEO_TS

videos\tv show\show_S01E01020304\VIDEO_TS

[deh2k7]

(04-18-2009 09:13 AM)texags2008 Wrote:  in short, add CDx, DISCx, DISKx or PARTx after each part of the video file. for tv shows put SxxExxExxExx...

videos\film [cd2]\VIDEO_TS

videos\tv show\show_S01E01020304\VIDEO_TS

Thanks for the info - looks like I'm partly there already but have the extra space. So the Disc1, Disc2, etc has to come after the film name?

What about with Box sets for movies with different names that won't sort properly, i.e. indiana jones? If we use the Disc1 to PRECEDE the film name will YAMJ ignore it?

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(04-18-2009 09:02 AM)garp99 Wrote:  Asked and answered: YAMJ Wiki

Boxed sets
File Naming
Multi-Part Videos
NFO Files
TV Series Naming

Garp -

Thanks for your response, but I disagree. It's only partially answered in the the wiki. You make the assumption that I failed to read the wiki, but, in fact I did read the wiki. I read all of those sections and still have questions.

Most of the instructions are geared towards managing single-file movies, not a complete DVD rip. When you have well over 800 movies already ripped, in VIDEO_TS, many of those instructions really don't come in to play. Renaming a few movies is one thing, but not for an entire collection.

That's why I am asking clarifying questions and perhaps, when we have a complete set of examples, we can post it to the wiki for others to benefit from it as well.

Judging from the sheer number of questions about paths and oftentimes about naming, I'd say that the wiki probably isn't meeting all of their needs, either.

Thanks for the recommendations and suggestions however!

[curien]

(04-18-2009 05:10 PM)deh2k7 Wrote:  What about with Box sets for movies with different names that won't sort properly, i.e. indian jones? If we use the Disc1 to PRECEDE the film name will YAMJ ignore it?

The movies in a boxedset are sorted by release date by default, not by name, since that is the desired behavior most of the time. But if you want to override the default order, the Wiki tells you how to do that.

Also, the "disc1" stuff and the "set" stuff are completely separate -- one does not affect the other (so you can have a multi-disc movie appear inside a boxedset, just like any other movie).

[deh2k7]

(04-18-2009 09:13 AM)texags2008 Wrote:  in short, add CDx, DISCx, DISKx or PARTx after each part of the video file. for tv shows put SxxExxExxExx...

videos\film [cd2]\VIDEO_TS

videos\tv show\show_S01E01020304\VIDEO_TS

Also - are the [] required around CD1, CD2, DISC1, DISC2?

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(04-18-2009 05:18 PM)curien Wrote:  The movies in a boxedset are sorted by release date by default, not by name, since that is the desired behavior most of the time. But if you want to override the default order, the Wiki tells you how to do that.

Also, the "disc1" stuff and the "set" stuff are completely separate -- one does not affect the other (so you can have a multi-disc movie appear inside a boxedset, just like any other movie).

Curien -

Regarding multipart movies inside a boxset, like the Godfather example above, can you mark it up so that all movies appear properly inside the boxset, and the godfather 2, which is a mutli-disc movie, also appears properly nested?

I'll take all of this discussion and the examples and pull them together for posting on the wiki when we're finished.

[Gibbo]

I'd say they probably are, the wiki uses them in its examples.

I guess there are no examples of VIDEO_TS files in the wiki but the same rules apply, use the example given in the wiki for the folder name that the VIDEO_TS resides in.

[curien]

(04-18-2009 05:31 PM)deh2k7 Wrote:  Regarding multipart movies inside a boxset, like the Godfather example above, can you mark it up so that all movies appear properly inside the boxset, and the godfather 2, which is a mutli-disc movie, also appears properly nested?

I'll take all of this discussion and the examples and pull them together for posting on the wiki when we're finished.

Godfather [SET Godfather Trilogy].avi
Godfather Part II [DISC1][SET Godfather Trilogy].avi
Godfather Part II [DISC2][SET Godfather Trilogy].avi
Godfather Part III [SET Godfather Trilogy].avi

[deh2k7]

(04-18-2009 05:56 PM)curien Wrote:  Godfather [SET Godfather Trilogy].avi
Godfather Part II [DISC1][SET Godfather Trilogy].avi
Godfather Part II [DISC2][SET Godfather Trilogy].avi
Godfather Part III [SET Godfather Trilogy].avi

Curien -

I'm working specifically with DVD rips using VIDEO_TS folders, not single files. Thus a bit of the confusion. How should this file structure be modified to fit properly?

C\movies\The Godfather Collection
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 1 - The Godfather
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 1 - The Godfather\VIDEO_TS
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 2 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 1)
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 2 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 1)\VIDEO_TS
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 3 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 2)
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 3 - The Godfather Part 2, (Disc 2)\VIDEO_TS
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 4 - The Godfather Part 3
C\movies\The Godfather Collection\Disc 4 - The Godfather Part 3\VIDEO_TS

Thanks again!

[curien]

(04-18-2009 06:44 PM)deh2k7 Wrote:  I'm working specifically with DVD rips using VIDEO_TS folders, not single files.

Doesn't matter, YAMJ treats them the same. It just grabs the name from the parent directory of the VIDEO_TS instead of from the file name.

[strum]

deh2k7,

Were you able to figure this out?

I'm doing something similar but with Babylon 5.

To test, I ripped the first three (of 6) DVDs two ways, one into Video_ts and the other into ISO files.

For the VIDEO_TS, i have a folder named:
BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 1]
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 1]
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 1]

For the ISO files each are named
BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 1].iso

First off when I run My_YAMJ, I get the following error but it continues on.
ERROR: TheTVDB API -> ht tp://thetvdb.com/api/2805AD2873519EC5/series/70726/default/-1/1/
(i put the sapce in HTTP so it wouldn't turn it into a link so you can ignore it)

Once it's done and I click on Index.htm, i get one thumb and they have Part01, part02, part03 listed under it. They all seem to be pointing to the ISOs.
Here is a screenshot.
http://home.netcom.com/~wilsonv/screenshots/

(One weird bug, if i move the ISOs out and rerun my_yamj, now i get the an index.htm that has the three parts listed under the thumb but now pointing to the video_ts folder. Looks like it can't figure out what to do with two of the same shows.)

If you find out how to fix this please post your solution.

thanks

Edit: By the way, if i have two seasons.

BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 1].iso

BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 2].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 2].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 2].iso

It only shows the three disks in season 2 in the index.htm.

[deh2k7]

(04-18-2009 07:25 PM)curien Wrote:  Doesn't matter, YAMJ treats them the same. It just grabs the name from the parent directory of the VIDEO_TS instead of from the file name.

Curien -

What's really the difference between using SET and DISCX nomenclature? Can they nest within each other? I thought that I read they could not...

I can see using SET to group movies that belong together, but DISCX seems to work better for actual movies within a real boxset....

Still confused, but making progress...

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(04-19-2009 04:29 AM)strum Wrote:  deh2k7,

Were you able to figure this out?

I'm doing something similar but with Babylon 5.

To test, I ripped the first three (of 6) DVDs two ways, one into Video_ts and the other into ISO files.

For the VIDEO_TS, i have a folder named:
BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 1]
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 1]
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 1]

For the ISO files each are named
BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 1].iso

First off when I run My_YAMJ, I get the following error but it continues on.
ERROR: TheTVDB API -> ht tp://thetvdb.com/api/2805AD2873519EC5/series/70726/default/-1/1/
(i put the sapce in HTTP so it wouldn't turn it into a link so you can ignore it)

Once it's done and I click on Index.htm, i get one thumb and they have Part01, part02, part03 listed under it. They all seem to be pointing to the ISOs.
Here is a screenshot.
http://home.netcom.com/~wilsonv/screenshots/

(One weird bug, if i move the ISOs out and rerun my_yamj, now i get the an index.htm that has the three parts listed under the thumb but now pointing to the video_ts folder. Looks like it can't figure out what to do with two of the same shows.)

If you find out how to fix this please post your solution.

thanks

Edit: By the way, if i have two seasons.

BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 1].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 1].iso

BABYLON 5 [DISK1][SET SEASON 2].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK2][SET SEASON 2].iso
BABYLON 5 [DISK3][SET SEASON 2].iso

It only shows the three disks in season 2 in the index.htm.

Why not try this for your VIDEO_TS:

BABYLON 5 [SET BABYLON 5 SEASON 1][DISC1] - Episodes 1-4
BABYLON 5 [SET BABYLON 5 SEASON 1][DISC2] - Episodes 5-8
BABYLON 5 [SET BABYLON 5 SEASON 1][DISC3] - Episodes 9-12

Seems to be working OK for me with the Simpsons set that I tried.

This also seems to work:

BABYLON 5 SEASON 1 [DISC1] - Episodes 1-4
BABYLON 5 SEASON 1 [DISC2] - Episodes 5-8
BABYLON 5 SEASON 1 [DISC3] - Episodes 9-12

Still trying to understand when/why to use SET vs DISC and when you would use both....

[strum]

(04-19-2009 07:15 AM)deh2k7 Wrote:  Why not try this for your VIDEO_TS:

BABYLON 5 [SET BABYLON 5 SEASON 1][DISC1] - Episodes 1-4
BABYLON 5 [SET BABYLON 5 SEASON 1][DISC2] - Episodes 5-8
BABYLON 5 [SET BABYLON 5 SEASON 1][DISC3] - Episodes 9-12

Seems to be working OK for me with the Simpsons set that I tried.

This also seems to work:

BABYLON 5 SEASON 1 [DISC1] - Episodes 1-4
BABYLON 5 SEASON 1 [DISC2] - Episodes 5-8
BABYLON 5 SEASON 1 [DISC3] - Episodes 9-12

Still trying to understand when/why to use SET vs DISC and when you would use both....

Thanks.

The first one you listed gives me the same result as the screenshot I posted above. No season info.

The second version thinks it's called babylon 5 the river of souls and lists all the disks under one episode.

Is the Episodes 1-4 in the folder name supposed to produce any results?

I got really close with he ISO files.
I name them:
BABYLON.5.S01E01E02E03E04.[DISK1].iso and it actully showed Season 1 but then each of the disks next to the play button has only one and half episode names. Seems like there is a limit on the text next.

[garp99]

(04-18-2009 05:10 PM)deh2k7 Wrote:  Garp -
Thanks for your response, but I disagree. It's only partially answered in the the wiki. You make the assumption that I failed to read the wiki, but, in fact I did read the wiki. I read all of those sections and still have questions.
...
That's why I am asking clarifying questions and perhaps, when we have a complete set of examples, we can post it to the wiki for others to benefit from it as well.

As you can well imagine, many questions come up over and over, so my posting that info was not simply
for your benefit but also for the others that enter this thread and may never have even known about the Wiki.

Yes, my initial assumption of someone asking these questions was that more reading was needed,
since you are new to the forum with few posts. Nothing personal.

Feel free to submit any changes for the Wiki that you feel will help clarify things further, perhaps with better examples.
.

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(04-19-2009 07:15 AM)deh2k7 Wrote:  Still trying to understand when/why to use SET vs DISC and when you would use both....

SETS were more for movies, however they are used for the purpose of creating a sub-index of related movies.
A "movie" includes a TV season. So TV seasons are automatically put into a SET based on season, provided you set the options
mjb.singleSeriesPage=true
mjb.sets.minSetCount=2
mjb.sets.requireAll=true

A DISC (or DISK or CD) is used to show multi-parts or multi-episodes on a single details page (not index page).

[deh2k7]

(04-19-2009 08:03 AM)garp99 Wrote:  As you can well imagine, many questions come up over and over, so my posting that info was not simply
for your benefit but also for the others that enter this thread and may never have even known about the Wiki.

Yes, my initial assumption of someone asking these questions was that more reading was needed,
since you are new to the forum with few posts. Nothing personal.

Feel free to submit any changes for the Wiki that you feel will help clarify things further, perhaps with better examples.
.

No worries - I know the drill. I generally RTFF before posting on new forums. When I get this all figured out, I will take examples from my own library and post them for the wiki. More examples are always better IMO.