Re. Do NOT choose AUTO video resolution

[mrparp]

I'm a little puzzled by the moderator's sticky thread telling everyone to set the PCH resolution manually and not use AUTO. My plasma handles all sorts of speeds including 24p, 50 and 60hz and others. The right setting depends on the media, i.e if I'm playing a 24p blu-ray rip, I want the PCH to negotiate 24p or 23.97.. with my plasma, because the plasma advertises that as an available refresh rate. Similarly, if I play a 50 or 60hz media file, the PCH should try to negotiate that too. But I don't want to change the video resolution manually and the remote control shortcuts for resolution don't include all of them (e.g. 24p settings).

I feel this is what AUTO should really be doing and in fact this is what my dvd player's auto setting does, e.g. picks the best compatible resolution.

I guess I should post a feature request.

[cheaper_popcorn]

In the new firmware there is an auto framerate feature, which if turned on will work well with your plasma and make sure that the frame rate of the source material is used (pick the NTSC/PAL/24p setting - effectively this is 60 fps, 50 fps and 24 fps [23.976 fps]).

The reason why the resolution (a separate setting) should not be set to AUTO is because the risk of HDMI handshakes going wrong increases considerably, and we keep getting people with problems due to having AUTO specified as a permanent resolution.

In your case, set the resolution to 1080p60, set the TV type to 16:9, set the auto framerate setting NSC/PAL/24p, and choose "Fit to Screen". That way you will not have to mess about.

[shezadhusain]

Hi..not having much joy for the last 2wks with this with HDX 1000; Occasionally having video 'judder...vdo skips fast , no sound' and then everything is fine again.

an u pls help clarify what my settings should be for
TV - Sony Bravia KDL-46x2000 (the spec say supports 1080p BUT DONOT KNOW which Freq)...http://www.sony.co.uk/product/t46-x-series/kdl-46x2000#pageType=TechnicalSpecs

1. Video Output - 1080p50Hz????
2. Framerate - Off/NTSC PAL/NTSC PAL 24p ????

Have tried different combinations with no result..still get the occassional stutter.

Appreciate any help;

(06-01-2009 05:23 PM)cheaper_popcorn Wrote:  In the new firmware there is an auto framerate feature, which if turned on will work well with your plasma and make sure that the frame rate of the source material is used (pick the NTSC/PAL/24p setting - effectively this is 60 fps, 50 fps and 24 fps [23.976 fps]).

The reason why the resolution (a separate setting) should not be set to AUTO is because the risk of HDMI handshakes going wrong increases considerably, and we keep getting people with problems due to having AUTO specified as a permanent resolution.

In your case, set the resolution to 1080p60, set the TV type to 16:9, set the auto framerate setting NSC/PAL/24p, and choose "Fit to Screen". That way you will not have to mess about.

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(06-01-2009 09:10 PM)shezadhusain Wrote:  Hi..not having much joy for the last 2wks with this with HDX 1000; Occasionally having video 'judder...vdo skips fast , no sound' and then everything is fine again.

an u pls help clarify what my settings should be for
TV - Sony Bravia KDL-46x2000 (the spec say supports 1080p BUT DONOT KNOW which Freq)...http://www.sony.co.uk/product/t46-x-series/kdl-46x2000#pageType=TechnicalSpecs

1. Video Output - 1080p50Hz????
2. Framerate - Off/NTSC PAL/NTSC PAL24p ????

Have tried different combinations with no result..still get the occassional stutter.

Appreciate any help;

Just wanted to check the new firmware u'r talking about; I am using HDX-1000 & the latest firmware is -
Release Date : 28 March 2009
Firmware Version: 50-17-090201-15-HDD-403-000

[u]Question[/u]
1. This firmware for the FrameRate DOESNOT have an AUTO option; The options are - Off/NTSC PAL/NTSC PAL24p; Should I select - NTSC /PAL24p?

2. Why 1080p60 rather than 1080p50 for PAL???

Thnx

[chris57]

It doesnt really matter whether you select 1080/60 or 1080/50 as the Autoframerate will change it to reflect the input source.

The AUTO we are talking about is the Video Output resolution setting. Do not leave any NMT with this setting.

That Sony does NOT have 24p.

Therefore choose 1080/50 and NTSC/PAL.

If any USA members read this choose 1080/60 and do not set autoframerate. USA TV's generally only have NTSC whereas European TV's have both NTSC and PAL. The WIKI says 1080/60 or 720/60 so that it works for ALL Tv's and not just those with NTSC and PAL.

[mrparp]

(06-01-2009 05:23 PM)cheaper_popcorn Wrote:  In the new firmware there is an auto framerate feature, which if turned on will work well with your plasma and make sure that the frame rate of the source material is used (pick the NTSC/PAL/24p setting - effectively this is 60 fps, 50 fps and 24 fps [23.976 fps]).

The reason why the resolution (a separate setting) should not be set to AUTO is because the risk of HDMI handshakes going wrong increases considerably, and we keep getting people with problems due to having AUTO specified as a permanent resolution.

In your case, set the resolution to 1080p60, set the TV type to 16:9, set the auto framerate setting NSC/PAL/24p, and choose "Fit to Screen". That way you will not have to mess about.

That definitely does *not* work for me (I have latest firmware). Have you tried a 24p movie?

I have tried Framerate Sync set to NTSC/PAL/24p and had Video Output set to 1080p 60hz or AUTO - playing a 24p Blu-ray rip results in terrible stuttering.

Turning off Framerate Sync and setting Video Output explicitly to 1080p 23.976hz resulted in a perfect picture.

I've just noticed something worse too with latest firmware - getting audio dropouts on movies that never used to be a problem... oh dear

Chris

[spawn]

it is not a conversion of any kind - but an output change between refresh rates based on the source file

It reads the source file type and if PAL switch to correct output for PAL which is 50hz, if NTSC it switch to correct output for NTSC which is 29.976hz, and if source is 23.976 or 24 it switch to 1080p23.976

Naturally all this can be done manually in the video output settings - but after many requests this automatic output function was made because many users felt it was either difficult or to time consuming to check every time.

It can and should be configured in various ways to match the capabilities of the screen, to avoid the feature trying to switch to an output not supported by the screen.

[mrparp]

Spawn, I've noticed you may have a similar setup. I have a KRP-600A and Denon AVC-A1XVA. Framerate sync definitely is not a baby smooth as hardcoding it to 23.976. Additionally, I never had DTS issues before this latest firmware and like a dumbass I upgraded anyway, expecting lots of bug fixes which weren't there, and now I DO have DTS playback dropouts. That firmware is a step backward for me.

[J-Man]

So the really stupid question is - If you shouldn't set it to AUTO, then why is the option even there?

Answer: Because it's supposed to work.

So if it's supposed to work and it doesn't, there's a bug! So fix it already PCH!

Or, better still - delete this option and revise the firmware to allow write access to NTFS like you said you would by November last year.

[cheaper_popcorn]

The AUTO option is there to solve HDMI handshake problems, as a temporary solution. Once you have got the picture back with AUTO, you go to the setup menu and pick a resolution supported by your TV.