.mkv not playing

[toastie]

Hello everyone,

Well after a weekend of playing with my new A110 i thought it mostly sussed. How wrong could i be! lol!

I'got two files dl'ed, unrared and waiting to play on the NMT now. The first is Knowing and the second is Monstors inc.

Both are .mkv files - and both refuse to play. Now, i've fiddled with settings etc, but cant get any where with them.

I've attached teh MediaInfo output for Knowing here
General
Complete name : P:\Movies\Knowing (2009) - 15\knowing1080p-e.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 10.9 GiB
Duration : 2h 1mn
Overall bit rate : 12.9 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-06-20 19:53:04
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.8.0 ('The Tree') built on May 9 2009 18:02:06
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate : 11.1 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 11.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.296
Stream size : 9.43 GiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1165 6841c5e
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=11375 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 1mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Stream size : 1.28 GiB (12%)

And Monsters Inc is here:

General
Complete name : P:\Movies\Monsters Inc (2001) - U\Monsters.Inc.2001.1080p.BluRay.DTS-ES.x264-DON.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 7.19 GiB
Duration : 1h 32mn
Overall bit rate : 11.2 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-06-08 12:05:35
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.8.0 ('The Tree') built on May 9 2009 18:02:06
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 10 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@5.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate : 9 231 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 450 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 038 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.850
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.193
Stream size : 5.94 GiB (83%)
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1163M 3f56e27
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=10 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy_rd=0.9:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=64 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=9450 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.80
Language : English

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : ES
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Stream size : 996 MiB (14%)
Title : Main Audio
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 127 MiB (2%)
Title : Commentary Track
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 4
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 5
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Language : French

Text #3
ID : 6
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Language : Spanish

Text #4
ID : 7
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Language : Swedish


What is it thati should be looking for here? Any tips of clues as to how i can get this file to play?

Thanks in adavnce again folks!

toastie

[Specter]

Thats because both of your files are out of spec, the PCH cannot play 1080p files with profile @5.1
and with more than 4 reference frames.

Stick with 720p files your success will be higher.

you can try remuxing Knowing with mkv merge but YMMV.

[toastie]

(06-29-2009 07:31 PM)Specter Wrote:  Thats because both of your files are out of spec, the PCH cannot play 1080p files with profile @5.1
and with more than 4 reference frames.

Stick with 720p files your success will be higher.

you can try remuxing Knowing with mkv merge but YMMV.

Thanks so much for the super quick reply. I thought the A110 could deal with 1080p files?

Mkvmerge is program right? Whats YMMV?

toastie

[HTP]

A110 can deal 1080p files fine.

Your Monsters Inc rip is way out of the specs (BluRay standard specs are High@L4.1 and 4 ReFrames). I think that remuxing it with MkvToolnix program won't help but you can try to mux it to .ts format with TsMuxer.

Have you rebooted your PopcornHour? Sometimes 1080p files refuse to play but when you reboot your machine files will play.

ps. I have that same Knowing rip that you got and it plays fine.

[toastie]

(06-29-2009 07:53 PM)HTP Wrote:  A110 can deal 1080p files fine.

Your Monsters Inc rip is way out of the specs (BluRay standard specs are High@L4.1 and 4 ReFrames). I think that remuxing it with MkvToolnix program won't help but you can try to mux it to .ts format with TsMuxer.

Have you rebooted your PopcornHour? Sometimes 1080p files refuse to play but when you reboot your machine files will play.

ps. I have that same Knowing rip that you got and it plays fine.

Hey HTP,

Thanks for teh rely man. Ok - Knowing is now playing fine after a reboot. I'll bare that in mind for future ones.

I'll try and remux Monsters Inc a .ts file with tsMuxeR as you've suggested. I'd really like to get that one working. Is it quite straight forwarded?

Thanks again dude
toastie

[HTP]

(06-29-2009 08:20 PM)toastie Wrote:  Hey HTP,

Thanks for teh rely man. Ok - Knowing is now playing fine after a reboot. I'll bare that in mind for future ones.

I'll try and remux Monsters Inc a .ts file with tsMuxeR as you've suggested. I'd really like to get that one working. Is it quite straight forwarded?

Thanks again dude
toastie

Did you tried to play Monster Inc. after reboot?

tsMuxer is really easy to use. Just load .mkv file into it and press Start Muxing. It takes about 5-10min to finish.

[toastie]

(06-29-2009 08:30 PM)HTP Wrote:  Did you tried to play Monster Inc. after reboot?

tsMuxer is really easy to use. Just load .mkv file into it and press Start Muxing. It takes about 5-10min to finish.

No I didnt try staright away, but have now. Its also playing fine! Thats awesome!

Is there somewhere i can find some decent info on the limits of file that the A110 will play?

Thanks again HTP. I really appreciate it!

toastie

[HTP]

(06-29-2009 08:36 PM)toastie Wrote:  Is there somewhere i can find some decent info on the limits of file that the A110 will play?

Not really, but in my own experience 1080p rips what are encoded with High@L5.1 and 12 or 16 ReFrames won't play. Except a few exceptions.

So if you're gonna download rip with those specs download Sample first. If there's no sample available I suggest to find an another rip.

[toastie]

(06-29-2009 08:44 PM)HTP Wrote:  Not really, but in my own experience 1080p rips what are encoded with High@L5.1 and 12 or 16 ReFrames won't play. Except a few exceptions.

So if you're gonna download rip with those specs download Sample first. If there's no sample available I suggest to find an another rip.

Thanks mate. I'll bear that in mind. Thanks once again for all your help and advice

toastie

[Specter]

The limitations are listed on the purchase page.
http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/i...&item_id=6

[chris57]

Bear in mind also that retail BD discs are HP@L4 so why when encoding some decide to up the profile and number of reference frames is just down to lack of knowledge as you cannot get any quality gain over the original source.
You tend to find nowadays that there is a working version so look for sample files like HTP says it will save you Gb's of downloading. Also look out for DXVA tags as they should play fine. The PS3 cannot play these files either only HTPC's with software decoders rather than hardware players like PS3, NMT, etc.