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1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
11-07-2009, 09:53 PM
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1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
So I have a 1920x1080p LCD Toshiba 40RF35OU TV, NTSC. When I watch full blu ray rips that are at 1920x1080 I get black bars on the top and bottom of the picture. I watched a 1920x1040 .MKV the other night and it filled the whole screen. Is there something that is wrong with my video settings? I always thought that if my native resolution of my TV is 1920x1080p, blu rays that are that exact resolution would play without any black bars on the top or bottom. thanks for the help guys.
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11-07-2009, 10:07 PM (This post was last modified: 11-07-2009 10:09 PM by spawn.)
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RE: 1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
Movies on bluray are mostly in filmformat 2.40 aspect ratio - not in 1.78 (16:9) aspect ratio as your screen or the total videoframe has
So despite the bluray having a 1920x1080 pixels videoframe format, it will still have black bars top/buttom, because the part which is the movie is really only 1920x800 pixels, rest is black. The 1.78 (16:9) format is a television format, movies made for television may be shot at that aspect ratio, and thus fill the screen, but if its a movie shot for the movie theatres its shot in 2.40 filmformat. When released on bluray (and often on DVD also) this format is kept, and you will still see black bars on a 16:9 TV screen.

Most reencodes in mkv format have had the black bars cropped out, so if you analyse the video with mediainfo you will see that the encodes are mostly around 1920x800 pixels

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11-07-2009, 10:35 PM
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RE: 1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
Three options to get rid of the black bars:
- Zoom in with the C200
- Zoom in with your TV (most screens have that option)
- Buy the new 2:40 aspect ratio screen Philips just released Big Grin
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11-07-2009, 10:50 PM
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RE: 1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
(11-07-2009 10:35 PM)funk1980 Wrote:  Three options to get rid of the black bars:
- Zoom in with the C200
- Zoom in with your TV (most screens have that option)
- Buy the new 2:40 aspect ratio screen Philips just released Big Grin

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11-08-2009, 12:50 AM
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RE: 1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
This is all covered in HD 101

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11-08-2009, 01:25 AM
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RE: 1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
Not strictly true that all movies shot for cinema are in 2.35 or 2.4:1, there are plenty framed at 1.78 or 1.85:1 even today, though mostly dramas, comedies etc. Almost all modern action blockbusters are framed 2.35:1 or wider. Spawn may have just revealed the bias in his viewing habits Smile

Anyway, no offence but it's hard to believe people are still complaining about the black bars in this day and age: not all movies are the same shape as your TV screen and it's been that way since the dawn of television, as stated the only options are black bars or zooming and cropping the image.

If you were to get a 7:3 TV you'd quickly discover how much content is narrower than that aspect ratio and have to deal with black bars on the side. A better solution is to do what the cinemas do: constant image height, roll the curtains in and out as appropriate. Then you need a fancy projector and lenses etc of course.
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11-08-2009, 02:28 AM
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RE: 1080P tv but still black bars on top and bottom with blu ray
Quote:Spawn may have just revealed the bias in his viewing habits

Big Grin Partly true Wink

And you are offcource right about the variations, I just deliberately simplified my explanation not to confuse more than inform.

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