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A200 Thermal Images
02-02-2010, 01:24 AM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2010 03:01 AM by halfelite.)
Post: #1
A200 Thermal Images
This is reserved for the Thermal Image batch from the A200. There will be 4 sets of images.

1. The fan And no HD. playing a 1080p movie.
2. Fan and 1tb HD playing 1080p movie from drive
3. No fan and no HD playing 1080p movie
4. 1TB drive and no fan play 1080p movie from drive.

Also for test sake Im doing 30 minute watches. As i dont have time to watch a whole movie. And after 30 min it should be at max

I might do one streaming movie and one ftp transfer but we will see how time goes.

And a picture of the gear
[Image: gear.jpg]



Here is the specs of the file im playing
Code:
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 7.94 GiB
Duration                         : 1h 37mn
Overall bit rate                 : 11.6 Mbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2008-10-30 05:02:10
Writing application              : mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Oct 11 2008 20:13:15
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
Muxing mode                      : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 1h 37mn
Bit rate                         : 9 885 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 10.1 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 872 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 2.2:1
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.246
Stream size                      : 6.75 GiB (85%)
Writing library                  : x264 core 65 r999 cc51047
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=10113 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language                         : English

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : DTS
Format/Info                      : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID                         : A_DTS
Duration                         : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Stream size                      : 1.03 GiB (13%)
Language                         : English

Ok first set A200 with fan and no HD
[Image: no_hd_fan_case.jpg]


[Image: no_hd_fan_int.jpg]


Ok second batch No HD no FAN.
[Image: no_fan_nohd_case.jpg]


[Image: no_fan_nohd_int.jpg]


Standby With no Fan and no harddrive. Option to disable fan while turned off
[Image: standby_no_fan_case.jpg]


[Image: standby_no_fan_int.jpg]
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02-02-2010, 01:29 AM
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RE: A200 Thermal Images
Really looking forward to these. I can see them becoming very popular along with fan and case mods.

I heard that only with a 3.5" HDD is the fan necessary lets see how that stacks up with your snaps.

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02-02-2010, 01:35 AM
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RE: A200 Thermal Images
(02-02-2010 01:29 AM)chris57 Wrote:  Really looking forward to these. I can see them becoming very popular along with fan and case mods.

I heard that only with a 3.5" HDD is the fan necessary lets see how that stacks up with your snaps.

Im wondering to as unless i round up a 2.5" drive im running a 3.5" as its all i have laying around.
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02-02-2010, 01:41 AM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2010 01:41 AM by chris57.)
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RE: A200 Thermal Images
If it runs cool enough when playing from the network or say USB w/o a fan and no HDD then that's a big leap. SSD could be a possible alternative if a 2.5" is too hot.

Have you looked at a formatted HDD yet, does it have 4 or 3 partitions?

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02-02-2010, 01:51 AM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2010 01:53 AM by gvera.)
Post: #5
RE: A200 Thermal Images
Can the fan be slowed down adding a resitor in the path?
A slow revolving fan may be enough when no disc is used and be almost silent
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02-02-2010, 01:58 AM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2010 04:59 AM by chris57.)
Post: #6
RE: A200 Thermal Images
Fans are not always quieter if slower, some fans need a minimum speed.

The fan is of this kind although not the same shape and I havent checked the fittings:-
[Image: sku_8946_1.jpg]

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8946

Havent looked at the mounting of it to the chip yet but a heatsink with no HDD or a 2.5" HDD is what i'm thinking.

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02-02-2010, 03:22 AM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2010 03:26 AM by halfelite.)
Post: #7
RE: A200 Thermal Images
I WOULD NOT RUN WITHOUT A FAN AND A HARDDRIVE OF ANY SORT OF LOOKING AT NO FAN AND NO HD IMAGES.

i WILL TRY TO CHECK WITH A 2.5" GREEN OR SOMETHING OF LOW HEAT BUT I THINK IT WILL BE PUSHING THE LIMITS.
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02-02-2010, 04:56 AM
Post: #8
RE: A200 Thermal Images
Oh dear that would explain the lack of reply when asking for confirmation on whether it is possible to run w/o a fan if no HDD or a 2.5" fitted.

This looks like the A200 will be the first NMT in my house that will not be on 24/7 due to the fan noise. It will be going in the lounge. Those needing a none fan 8643 NMT look like having to go for the C200.

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02-02-2010, 05:01 AM
Post: #9
RE: A200 Thermal Images
I see case modders.

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02-02-2010, 05:13 AM
Post: #10
RE: A200 Thermal Images
I will try to test with a 2.5" and see what happens but pushing 170f is bad lol. Maybe a better heatsink would fix the problem. But im not so sure. I will post the rest of the results tomorrow.
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02-02-2010, 05:34 AM
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RE: A200 Thermal Images
(02-02-2010 03:22 AM)halfelite Wrote:  I WOULD NOT RUN WITHOUT A FAN AND A HARDDRIVE OF ANY SORT OF LOOKING AT NO FAN AND NO HD IMAGES.

i WILL TRY TO CHECK WITH A 2.5" GREEN OR SOMETHING OF LOW HEAT BUT I THINK IT WILL BE PUSHING THE LIMITS.

Hmmmmm, what happens when liquid plastic meets with printed circuit board? Will it be a match made in heaven? Huh

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02-02-2010, 05:46 AM
Post: #12
RE: A200 Thermal Images
(02-02-2010 05:34 AM)nuke12 Wrote:  Hmmmmm, what happens when liquid plastic meets with printed circuit board? Will it be a match made in heaven? Huh

Some would call it art
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02-02-2010, 06:09 AM
Post: #13
RE: A200 Thermal Images
Let me just say firstly, I'm a cooling fanatic!!!

The best thing you guys did was to introduce a Fan into your A200, it was ultimately the deal breaker up against the C200, oh and that the power supply is external from the main unit.

Just a few questions, please help with answers...

1. Can the fan speed be adjusted? I'll go for max setting if I have a choice.
2. Is it easy to swap the fan out if it fails?
3. Any way to upgrade to a more powerful?

I'll be running a 2.5" in this baby, can't wait to get it.

Thanks guys.
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02-02-2010, 09:35 PM
Post: #14
RE: A200 Thermal Images
After further thinking. Im going to test how much heat is made during standby. IE no hard drive. No running video or anything just the fan unplugged in standby. And i will post the images of fan/hd running today when i get home
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02-03-2010, 01:05 AM
Post: #15
RE: A200 Thermal Images
Its a standard processor fan, easily upgradable... you can't think they didn't test it with both size HD's installed...
I'm sure the fan is capable of normal opperation, regardless - its likely a standard pin mounting config for a processor fan....

Upgrade to a better quality quieter fan if you have a need for an internal HD
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