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Teething problems!?
05-21-2010, 12:29 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2010 01:27 PM by badger2.)
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Teething problems!?
Hi,

I have been putting off posting. Really trying to get this up and running myself.
I bought a c200 after all the good reviews, and to be quite honest was quite disappointed to find out how difficult it all is to set up. All I want to do is stream my media!

So, I have formatted, installed and set up my 2.5" Hdd, installed latest firmware and NMT Apps.

I have installed an LG BD ROM drive, and have done the c200 region hack on it successfully.

I have installed myihome, as I couldnt get it to stream anything through wmpnss.
On first boot up I can play an .avi no problem. SO I try an .mkv (have tried several!, it plays for about 8 seconds then freezes, after this it wont play any other file, if I click on an avi it just goes black for a second then back to the file selection screen.

I am wondering if it is because I am running myihome on windows 7?
Is there an alternative streaming solution that will allow me to play .mkv?

Forgot to mention, I have read the PCH manual from start to finish, I have read the myihome manual from start to finish (allowing all ports access, obtaining all .dll files etc).
Also spent hours on this forum and wiki
I have spent the last 10 hours on this, I'm not the best on a pc, but by no means am I stupid.
Is there a simple noob guide anywhere I can follow to get set up?

I have a feeling that windows 7 may be at the root of my troubles?

Any help/pointers greatly received!!

Any hal
Ok, plenty of views but no replies.
Lets simplify it a bit:

My PCH is set up and I can open myihome, it displays all my video files but wont play any of them
Sometimes they start and freeze after a few seconds, sometimes they wont start at all.

Any ideas?
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05-21-2010, 03:15 PM
Post: #2
RE: Teething problems!?
Hey mate, hang in there,
I know im just another "view" but i have no idea how to help.

rest assured there are lots of smart pro's on here that im sure will help, just give it a day or 2 for them to see ur post Smile

Good luck
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05-21-2010, 04:01 PM
Post: #3
RE: Teething problems!?
Can you give more detail as to your network infrastructure? Are you running wired or wireless? Have you tried setting the pch network to 10/100 and not auto?
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05-21-2010, 04:15 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2010 04:42 PM by badger2.)
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RE: Teething problems!?
I am wired and pch network is set to 10/100
Got sky broadband 10mb, with an ethernet cable into my pc, and another from router to pch
I have just transferred a 1080p .mkv to the internal hdd via ftp, it plays fine, can forward and rewind etc!
That is the first bit of hd footage I have been able to enjoy after 16hours of trying woohooo!
But I do want to be able to stream it!
Just tried setting the pch network to auto as well, did the same, played for a few seconds then froze.
Interestingly, I then tried to play the file from hdd again and it wouldn't play.
reboot pch= plays ok from hdd again
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05-21-2010, 04:42 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2010 04:53 PM by hjalmeida.)
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RE: Teething problems!?
That is exactly your problem.
Depending on the movie bitrate you *might* be unable to play it from the network (also depending if using SMB or NFS).
Depending on various factors, your average stream throughput in a 10/100 Mbps LAN may not be enough.
Most 1080p mkv movies if encoded properly to maintain high quality will have an average bit rate superior than the performance provided by a 10/100 LAN can give.

If want to view 1080p mkv i would seriously consider playing them from the internal HDD if the C-200.

Regards.

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05-21-2010, 04:48 PM
Post: #6
RE: Teething problems!?
Ok, it wont play 720p either, same problem?
To be honest it struggles with .avi too, cant forward or reverse with any confidence.
So, is this really all I am going to be able to do with this setup?
No one can stream hd then?
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05-21-2010, 04:56 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2010 04:59 PM by hjalmeida.)
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RE: Teething problems!?
You shouldn't have any type of problems streaming avi, 720p or even most of 1080p for that matter....

Have you tried to transfer a file from the PC to the NMT and see if it runs ok?

NMT: PCH A-200 / USB 4GB
TV: Panasonic TX-P50G10E via HDMI
RECEIVER: Sony DAV-SC6 via optical
LAN: Thomson TG784 and USR9106
NAS: Netgear ReadyNAS Duo 2x1.5 TB WD15WADS
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05-21-2010, 04:58 PM
Post: #8
RE: Teething problems!?
Yes it works fine from the pch hdd, its just streaming it has trouble with
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05-21-2010, 04:59 PM
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RE: Teething problems!?
I have to disagree with that one, I have an internal HD but only use it for apps and jukebox.
All my media including hi res 1080p mkv files (some of them up to 18Gbytes per movie) are stored on a NAS and they play fine via the network set at 10/100. Obviously I'm connected at 100Mbit as I agree 10Mbit isnt enough but 100Mbit should be fine.

100Mbit per sec, allowing for a max of 75% throughput is 9.375Mbyte per sec, 562Mbyte per min, 33.75Gbyte per hour.
Based on that, even if my 18Gbyte movie was only an hour long the 100Mbit Ethernet would be running at 50% of maximum.

I agree the problem does sound like network and you have set the Ethernet to 10/100 so its not that. It might be Windows 7 as there are various threads here about using it, do you have another machine (non Win 7) you can test from, to compare ?
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05-21-2010, 05:00 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2010 05:06 PM by badger2.)
Post: #10
RE: Teething problems!?
I'm not using smb or nfs, as my first post states im using myihome.
Should I be using smb or nfs?
(05-21-2010 04:59 PM)sminc Wrote:  I have to disagree with that one, I have an internal HD but only use it for apps and jukebox.
All my media including hi res 1080p mkv files (some of them up to 18Gbytes per movie) are stored on a NAS and they play fine via the network set at 10/100. Obviously I'm connected at 100Mbit as I agree 10Mbit isnt enough but 100Mbit should be fine.

100Mbit per sec, allowing for a max of 75% throughput is 9.375Mbyte per sec, 562Mbyte per min, 33.75Gbyte per hour.
Based on that, even if my 18Gbyte movie was only an hour long the 100Mbit Ethernet would be running at 50% of maximum.

I agree the problem does sound like network and you have set the Ethernet to 10/100 so its not that. It might be Windows 7 as there are various threads here about using it, do you have another machine (non Win 7) you can test from, to compare ?

Thanks, I thought that was probably the case.
I dont have a machine without windows 7 on unfortunately.
Has anyone reading this, got things streaming with windows 7 please?
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05-21-2010, 05:22 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2010 05:23 PM by hjalmeida.)
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RE: Teething problems!?
(05-21-2010 04:59 PM)sminc Wrote:  I have to disagree with that one, I have an internal HD but only use it for apps and jukebox.
All my media including hi res 1080p mkv files (some of them up to 18Gbytes per movie) are stored on a NAS and they play fine via the network set at 10/100. Obviously I'm connected at 100Mbit as I agree 10Mbit isnt enough but 100Mbit should be fine.

100Mbit per sec, allowing for a max of 75% throughput is 9.375Mbyte per sec, 562Mbyte per min, 33.75Gbyte per hour.
Based on that, even if my 18Gbyte movie was only an hour long the 100Mbit Ethernet would be running at 50% of maximum.

I agree the problem does sound like network and you have set the Ethernet to 10/100 so its not that. It might be Windows 7 as there are various threads here about using it, do you have another machine (non Win 7) you can test from, to compare ?

As i said, it depends on various factors, i didn't say it is a rule of thumb.
Just consider streaming a 20-26Gb 1080p mvk on a 100Mbit LAN and also from the same machine downloading stuff via p2p with a nice broadband connection. Lattency and most builtin QoS rules will basically give you problems. And actually, that is not so impossible to happen nowadays, since most broadband connections are now reaching 50-100Mbits.

But that is not in discussion here.

As i don't have any kind of knowledge on the basics of the MyiHome server, i can't help you with this.

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RECEIVER: Sony DAV-SC6 via optical
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NAS: Netgear ReadyNAS Duo 2x1.5 TB WD15WADS
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05-21-2010, 05:23 PM
Post: #12
RE: Teething problems!?
I use NFS on my NAS (mainly for historical reasons) but SMB is pretty easy to set up.
Try connecting to a SMB share on the Win7 machine from the PCH and playing a file that way.
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05-21-2010, 05:24 PM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2010 05:24 PM by badger2.)
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RE: Teething problems!?
My biggest mkv is 7.84gb, and I have nothing else running on my pc except IE.
Thanks for your thoughts
(05-21-2010 05:23 PM)sminc Wrote:  I use NFS on my NAS (mainly for historical reasons) but SMB is pretty easy to set up.
Try connecting to a SMB share on the Win7 machine from the PCH and playing a file that way.

Ok, will have a go now
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05-21-2010, 05:24 PM
Post: #14
RE: Teething problems!?
MakeMKV offers a streaming server option which may be worth trying.

http://www.makemkv.com/faq/item/5/catid/5

What program did you use to create your MKV files? It may be worth trying to remux one into a TS container to see if it helps with streaming.
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05-21-2010, 05:50 PM
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RE: Teething problems!?
(05-21-2010 05:24 PM)badger2 Wrote:  My biggest mkv is 7.84gb, and I have nothing else running on my pc except IE.
Thanks for your thoughts

Ok, will have a go now

No, it does the same thing, plays for a few seconds then freezes and goes back to menu
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