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uncle.f · 06-20-2008, 10:54 PM

spawn Wrote:If you demux and analyse the h264 tracks in these encodes for BD5, its identified as a JVT NAL Sequence rather than an ISO AVC/H264 - this basically means the wrapping in the file is different from the normal ISO wrapping which make the stream unsuitable for use in an .mkv container. The JVT NAL Sequence wrapping is for mpeg ps/ts containers, which is used by the BluRay format - therefore the file gets playable when remuxed to a .ts or .m2ts container.

Finally a sound explanation! Thanks a lot spawn!
Could you please explain how to determine the above details? What software do you use to determine the encoding sequence?

Siggi Jarl · 06-20-2008, 10:57 PM

edsvallakung Wrote:Just tried the 10000.BC.720p.BD5.x264-Cxxxxa and it works fine atleast first 5 min 8) is it later it stops workin or whats the deal?

before or after you remuxed to .ts? because it wouldn't work AT ALL as a .mkv for me

edsvallakung · 06-21-2008, 06:48 AM

Siggi Jarl Wrote:
edsvallakung Wrote:Just tried the 10000.BC.720p.BD5.x264-Cxxxxa and it works fine atleast first 5 min 8) is it later it stops workin or whats the deal?

before or after you remuxed to .ts? because it wouldn't work AT ALL as a .mkv for me

works as it is as mkv, you tried the newest fw? thats what I have anyways

Siggi Jarl · 06-21-2008, 12:22 PM

edsvallakung Wrote:
Siggi Jarl Wrote:
edsvallakung Wrote:Just tried the 10000.BC.720p.BD5.x264-Cxxxxa and it works fine atleast first 5 min 8) is it later it stops workin or whats the deal?

before or after you remuxed to .ts? because it wouldn't work AT ALL as a .mkv for me

works as it is as mkv, you tried the newest fw? thats what I have anyways

The Sample file works for me.. not the actual movie, just goes straight to black and then back to the menus

edit: but it works fine after remuxing to .TS

spawn · 06-21-2008, 06:14 PM

uncle.f Wrote:
spawn Wrote:If you demux and analyse the h264 tracks in these encodes for BD5, its identified as a JVT NAL Sequence rather than an ISO AVC/H264 - this basically means the wrapping in the file is different from the normal ISO wrapping which make the stream unsuitable for use in an .mkv container. The JVT NAL Sequence wrapping is for mpeg ps/ts containers, which is used by the BluRay format - therefore the file gets playable when remuxed to a .ts or .m2ts container.

Finally a sound explanation! Thanks a lot spawn!
Could you please explain how to determine the above details? What software do you use to determine the encoding sequence?

Your welcome 8)

I demuxed using mkvextract and got separate h264 videotrack and ac3 audiotrack - then analyzed the h264 track using Avinaptic.

ridonculus · 06-25-2008, 08:23 AM

I've done some testing with the BD5 type releases. In order for it to comply with bluray standards it needs a keyframe at least once a second. Which is where the problem is especially when audio is introduced. It also explains why cutting the file (reducing the amount of keyframes) plays ok. In a Popcorn Hour I tested a few different encodes of from an 85 and a 95 minute movie. Audio on 85 minute was 1536 DTS, audio on 95 minute was 640 kbps AC3:

NAL\10 second keyframes - both play
NAL\10 second keyframes\audio - both play
1 second keyframes - 85 minute movie played, 95 minute movie didnt
1 second keyframes\audio - both don't play
NAL\1 second keyframes - 85 minute played, 95 minute didnt
NAL\1 second keygrames\audio - both don't play

I think it comes down to the hardware used for software decoding not being able to handle many keyframes along with audio. RAM issue maybe? Hopefully a firmware update could optimize the software so they can be played from the mkv container.

spawn · 06-25-2008, 10:59 AM

Very good findings ridonculus 8)

lundman · 06-26-2008, 09:01 AM

The free Big Buck Bunny video, 1080p, which plays fine until it gets to the end credits. At that point it enters a 5fps jerk-fest.

It is a free download, and somewhat amusing for kids.

I got the AVI MP4 1080p version:

-rw-r--r-- 1 lundman lundman 928670754 Jun 8 10:44 big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi

http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/

Juanra · 06-28-2008, 10:13 AM

Unable to play this clip, 'could not play'error:

Code:

General

Nombre completo                  : D:\Archivos de programa\BitComet\Downloads\crysiswarheadteasertrailer.wmv

Formato                          : Windows Media

TamaÃƒÂ±o del archivo               : 133MB

DuraciÃƒÂ³n                         : 40seg.

Modo Bitrate total               : Variable

Bitrate total                    : 27.9Mbps

Bitrate total MÃƒÂ¡ximo             : 36.5Mbps

PelÃƒÂ­cula                         : Crysis Warhead Teaser

IntÃƒÂ©rprete                       : Crytek GmbH

Fecha de grabaciÃƒÂ³n               : 2008

Fecha de codificaciÃƒÂ³n            : UTC 2008-06-25 17:44:15.818

Derechos de autor                : Crytek GmbH 2008

SfOriginalFPS                    : 300000

Video

Formato                          : VC-1

Formato del perfil               : MP

ID CÃƒÂ³dec                         : WMV3

ID CÃƒÂ³dec/Info                    : Windows Media Video 9

ID CÃƒÂ³dec/Hint                    : WMV3

Description of the codec         : Windows Media Video 9 - Professional

DuraciÃƒÂ³n                         : 40seg.

Tipo de Bitrate                  : Variable

Bitrate                          : 26.3Mbps

Ancho                            : 1280pixeles

Alto                             : 720pixeles

RelaciÃƒÂ³n de aspecto              : 16/9

Velocidad de cuadro              : 30.000fps

ResoluciÃƒÂ³n                       : 24bits

Bits/(Pixel*cuadros)             : 0.952

Idioma                           : alemÃƒÂ¡n

Audio

Formato                          : WMA Lossless

Formato del perfil               : N1

ID CÃƒÂ³dec                         : 163

ID CÃƒÂ³dec/Info                    : Windows Media Audio 3

Description of the codec         : Windows Media Audio 9.2 Lossless - VBR Quality 100, 44 kHz, 2 channel 24 bit 1-pass VBR

DuraciÃƒÂ³n                         : 40seg.

Tipo de Bitrate                  : Constant

Bitrate                          : 1457Kbps

Canales(es)                      : 2canales

Velocidad de la muestra          : 44.1KHz

Idioma                           : alemÃƒÂ¡n

I'm using latest firm.

kloper · 06-29-2008, 07:13 PM

Hello. The video doesn't work for this file. It starts, then quits right away.

Code:

General

Complete name                    : E:\RapidShare\refined-vpoint\refined-vpoint.mkv

Format                           : Matroska

File size                        : 4.11 GiB

Duration                         : 1h 30mn

Overal bit rate                  : 6538 Kbps

Encoded date                     : UTC 2008-06-16 13:30:55

Writing application              : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It On Again') built on Mar  4 2008 12:58:26

Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video

Format                           : AVC

Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                   : High@L4.1

Format settings, CABAC           : Yes

Format settings, ReFrames        : 5 frames

Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC

Duration                         : 1h 30mn

Bit rate                         : 5628 Kbps

Width                            : 1280 pixels

Height                           : 720 pixels

Display aspect ratio             : 16/9

Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps

Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0

Scan type                        : Progressive

Language                         : English

Audio

Format                           : AC-3

Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3

Codec ID                         : A_AC3

Duration                         : 1h 30mn

Bit rate mode                    : Constant

Bit rate                         : 640 Kbps

Channel(s)                       : 6 channels

Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE

Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz

Language                         : English

Text #1

Format                           : UTF-8

Codec ID                         : S_TEXT/UTF8

Codec ID/Info                    : UTF-8 Plain Text

Language                         : English

Text #2

Format                           : UTF-8

Codec ID                         : S_TEXT/UTF8

Codec ID/Info                    : UTF-8 Plain Text

Language                         : English

[/code]

Kiu Diras · 07-20-2008, 03:09 AM

Is variable bit-rate MP3 an issue? I had a film that had it, that only gave out chirps at one-second intervals for audio. When I converted the film to contant bit-rate, the audio was fine. The new version also fast-forwarded fine, whereas the original got stuck in fast-forward for a time after I'd gone back to regular speed.

Code:

input = vbr audio

General

Complete name           : F:\hold\HB-vbr.avi

Format                  : AVI

Format/Info             : Audio Video Interleave

File size               : 473 MiB

Duration                : 49mn 20s

Overal bit rate         : 1340 Kbps

Video

Format                  : MPEG-4 Visual

Format profile          : Simple@L3

Format settings, BVOP   : No

Format settings, QPel   : No

Format settings, GMC    : No warppoints

Format settings, Matrix : Default

Codec ID                : XVID

Codec ID/Hint           : XviD

Duration                : 49mn 20s

Bit rate                : 1200 Kbps

Width                   : 640 pixels

Height                  : 480 pixels

Display aspect ratio    : 4/3

Frame rate              : 25.000 fps

Resolution              : 8 bits

Colorimetry             : 4:2:0

Scan type               : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)      : 0.156

Stream size             : 423 MiB

Writing library         : Magic0432

Audio

Format                  : MPEG Audio

Format version          : Version 1

Format profile          : Layer 3

Codec ID                : 55

Codec ID/Hint           : MP3

Duration                : 49mn 20s

Bit rate mode           : Constant

Bit rate                : 128 Kbps

Channel(s)              : 2 channels

Sampling rate           : 44.1 KHz

Resolution              : 16 bits

Stream size             : 45.2 MiB

Code:

output = cbr audio

General

Complete name           : F:\hold\HB-cbr.avi

Format                  : AVI

Format/Info             : Audio Video Interleave

File size               : 466 MiB

Duration                : 49mn 20s

Overal bit rate         : 1322 Kbps

Video

Format                  : MPEG-4 Visual

Format profile          : Simple@L3

Format settings, BVOP   : No

Format settings, QPel   : No

Format settings, GMC    : No warppoints

Format settings, Matrix : Default

Codec ID                : XVID

Codec ID/Hint           : XviD

Duration                : 49mn 20s

Bit rate                : 1200 Kbps

Width                   : 640 pixels

Height                  : 480 pixels

Display aspect ratio    : 4/3

Frame rate              : 25.000 fps

Resolution              : 8 bits

Colorimetry             : 4:2:0

Scan type               : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)      : 0.156

Stream size             : 423 MiB

Writing library         : Magic0432

Audio

Format                  : MPEG Audio

Format version          : Version 1

Format profile          : Layer 3

Codec ID                : 55

Codec ID/Hint           : MP3

Duration                : 49mn 20s

Bit rate mode           : Constant

Bit rate                : 112 Kbps

Channel(s)              : 2 channels

Sampling rate           : 44.1 KHz

Resolution              : 16 bits

Stream size             : 39.4 MiB

**chris57** · 07-20-2008, 06:42 AM

kloper Wrote:Hello. The video doesn't work for this file. It starts, then quits right away.

Dont post release crew names please it is in the rules.

This film has been discussed previously as have all of these new poorer quality PS3 releases. Stay away from any release with BD5 in the title. The orginal mkv does not play and the NFO includes instructions to make the BD5 via a BAT file.Once done mount with daemon tols or similar on your PC and explore to the STREAM folder. There you will see 000001.m2ts. That file will play BUT the resolution and bitrate are poor compared with proper none BD5 releases.

auren · 07-21-2008, 01:45 PM

Popcornhour would buffer but then quickly go back to the menu. It used to play before the current firmware.

Firmware Version 01-17-080612-15-POP-402-0000

General
Complete name : D:\Vids\720p Resident Evil - Extinction 2007.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.90 GiB
Duration : 1h 34mn
Overal bit rate : 2898 Kbps
Movie name : Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.720p
Encoded date : UTC 2007-12-25 07:27:12
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:55
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 6
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 34mn
Nominal bit rate : 2800 Kbps
Width : 1024 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.210
Title : Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.720p.x264
Writing library : x264 - core 55 svn-663
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=6 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=1 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=15 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=2800 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=14000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30
Language : English

Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1h 34mn
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Title : Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.720p.
Language : English

mgoebel · 08-04-2008, 06:03 AM

Does not play audio. The whole piece if in 3 parts, and none of them have audio though the video looks fine. I'm assuming the other 2 are encoded identically.

firmware 01-17-080612-15-POP-402-000
kernel 15-POP
NMT 00-17-080529-15-POP-402

From Media Info:
General
Complete name Big Grin

r.horrible.ep1.webrip.xvid-xxx.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 125 MiB
Duration : 13mn 48s
Overall bit rate : 1264 Kbps
Writing library : VirtualDub build 29896/release

Video
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Streaming Video@L1
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Muxing mode : Packet Bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 13mn 48s
Bit rate : 1194 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 368 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.513 fps
Original frame rate : 29.520 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.172
Stream size : 118 MiB (94%)
Writing library : XviD 1.1.2 (UTC 2006-11-01)

Audio
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 13mn 48s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 6.32 MiB (5%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 31880 ms (940.88 video frames)

wanton · (This post was last modified: 10-06-2008 07:39 PM by wanton.)

No audio when playing this file "[VS] One Piece 373 - Eng Sub (704x400).mp4" torrent here http://forum.anirena.com/viewtracker.php...d&id=14896

It works after remuxing it as matroska using mkvtoolsnix.

[ About file ]

Name: [VS] One Piece 373 - Eng Sub (704x400).mp4
Date: 6/10/2008 08:38:44
Size: 180,856,450 bytes (172.478 MB)

[ Generic infos ]

Play duration: 00:23:50 (1429.928333 s)
Container type: MP4/MOV
Major brand: ISO Base Media version 1
Compatible brands: JVT AVC
Creation time: 4/10/2008 20:23:57 UTC
Modification time: 4/10/2008 20:23:57 UTC
Number of streams: 2
Type of stream nr. 1: video (avc1) {GPAC ISO Video Handler}
Type of stream nr. 2: audio (mp4a) {GPAC ISO Audio Handler}
Audio streams: 1

[ Relevant data ]

Resolution: 704 x 400
Width: multiple of 32
Height: multiple of 16

[ Video track ]

Codec: avc1
Resolution: 704 x 400
Frame aspect ratio: 44:25 = 1.76 (~16:9)
Pixel aspect ratio: 1:1 = 1
Display aspect ratio: 44:25 = 1.76 (~16:9)
Framerate: 23.976023 fps
Number of frames: 34284
Bitrate: 880.399645 kbps

[ Audio track ]

Codec: mp4a
Bitrate: 127.999995 kbps
Sample rate: 44100 Hz

[ About H.264 encoding ]

User data: x264
User data: core 65 r998M 6768543
User data: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec
User data: Copyleft 2003-2008
User data: http://www.videolan.org/x264.html
User data: cabac=1
User data: ref=6
User data: deblock=1:0:0
User data: analyse=0x3:0x133
User data: me=umh
User data: subme=7
User data: psy_rd=1.0:0.0
User data: mixed_ref=1
User data: me_range=16
User data: chroma_me=1
User data: trellis=1
User data: 8x8dct=1
User data: cqm=0
User data: deadzone=21,11
User data: chroma_qp_offset=-2
User data: threads=3
User data: nr=0
User data: decimate=1
User data: mbaff=0
User data: bframes=16
User data: b_pyramid=1
User data: b_adapt=1
User data: b_bias=0
User data: direct=3
User data: wpredb=1
User data: keyint=250
User data: keyint_min=25
User data: scenecut=40(pre)
User data: rc=2pass
User data: bitrate=880
User data: ratetol=1.0
User data: qcomp=0.60
User data: qpmin=10
User data: qpmax=51
User data: qpstep=4
User data: cplxblur=20.0
User data: qblur=0.5
User data: ip_ratio=1.40
User data: pb_ratio=1.30
User data: aq=0
SPS id: 0
Profile: High@L3
Num ref frames: 6
Aspect ratio: Square pixels
Chroma format idc: YUV 4:2:0
PPS id: 0 (SPS: 0)
Entropy coding type: CABAC
Weighted prediction: No
Weighted bipred idc: B slices - implicit weighted prediction
8x8dct: Yes

[ Profile compliancy ]

Profile to check: MTK PAL 6000
Resolution: Ok
Framerate: 23.976023 <> 25
Warning: If you need a more complete report, then click on "DRF analysis"

This report was created by AVInaptic (18-11-2007) on 6 ott 2008, h 21:43:12

Another i probably should have posted here but thread is so long already i don't want to move it. http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showth...p?tid=8980
Problem is so odd that not sure if it's really a "playback" it's problem that stream is taking way way more bandwidth playing than it should.

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