PCH-C200 Freezes when trying to view .avi video and .jpg photos

[MediaHound]

My Thread maybe related to (Gabbbor's Aspect Ratio Problem) thread. But I'm not sure.OK here is the problem I have a HP MZ67 digital camera and all the photos jpg's and video's .avi that I have recorded with it, I can not play on my C-200.The container it uses is video.avi. photos are jpg's files and it doesn't matter what I try to play, either the video I captured or the still photos the C-200 freezes immediately.Then I have to power off the C-200 either by the cord or the switch on the back as none of the other functions work on the remote or the front panel on/off button.AC power has to be removed from the player and then restarted and machine rebooted for it to work again.This is not good.These files play on my computer fine and they also can be burned to a disc with no problems so I would assume it is a codec problem with the C200.But .avi and jpg are the most basic of codecs/files or most common I should say.Any help or suggestions are appreciated !

[Foxia]

I'm going to correct you on the AVI thing because AVI is not a codec. It is a container format just like MKV is.

The AVI only houses a video typically using either XviD or DviX codecs and an audio format that can be whatever user wants it to be.

In this case however The HP camera more than likely is creating an AVI file that is not using an Xvid or Dvix codec. meaning they are using a proprietary codec inside the AVI file. As I said in a previous thread you need to reconvert the video or transcode to another format that the PCH can work with.

It sucks yes, but this is not the PCH fault, this is HP's fault and many other camera makers fault because they want you to use your video's with whatever device they think it should work be it a PC, or a media box they create.

Also you just may want to re-save the images to Jpeg again using the GIMP or some other photo editing software since I have no idea what's going on there.

[Pain]

You can download and install the program "MediaInfo" from this link:
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download

If you install using the default options you can then right-click a video file and select "MediaInfo" in the popup-menu to get information about which codec is actually used inside the .avi

You can change the output to text, and then copy & paste to this forum (use a code section, the button with the #-sign just above the input box)
I'm curious about which format HP is using, so it would be great if you did this.

Most likely Foxia is right, and this is a codec PCH doesn't support so conversion is needed.

It is really strange that you have problem with Jpegs.
Have you tried rebooting the C200? (not standby, hold power button until the red light starts blinking, and when it stops, start again)
Sometimes when a file crashes playback the C200 can start behaving odd, and a reboot is needed.

If you actually need to resave all your photos, IrfanView can batch convert them for you. http://www.irfanview.com/

[chris57]

A quick search reveals that the camera uses mjpeg in an AVI for its video output.

Rencode if it doesnt play, some actually do but its not supported and wont be as there's too many different mjpeg varieties:-
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/i...p/Xvid4psp

[MediaHound]

(04-18-2011 12:20 AM)Foxia Wrote:  I'm going to correct you on the AVI thing because AVI is not a codec. It is a container format just like MKV is.

Hey Foxia, It seems you have come and bailed me out more than i can count on one hand. I need to treat you to dinner or something Thank You Yes I know it is a Container,I said that because i didn't know which encoder was used and just listed the container .avi

(04-18-2011 06:53 PM)Pain Wrote:  You can download and install the program "MediaInfo" from this link:
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download

If you install using the default options you can then right-click a video file and select "MediaInfo" in the popup-menu to get information about which codec is actually used inside the .avi

You can change the output to text, and then copy & paste to this forum (use a code section, the button with the #-sign just above the input box)
I'm curious about which format HP is using, so it would be great if you did this.

Most likely Foxia is right, and this is a codec PCH doesn't support so conversion is needed.

It is really strange that you have problem with Jpegs.
Have you tried rebooting the C200? (not standby, hold power button until the red light starts blinking, and when it stops, start again)
Sometimes when a file crashes playback the C200 can start behaving odd, and a reboot is needed.

If you actually need to resave all your photos, IrfanView can batch convert them for you. http://www.irfanview.com/

(04-20-2011 08:45 AM)chris57 Wrote:  A quick search reveals that the camera uses mjpeg in an AVI for its video output.

Rencode if it doesnt play, some actually do but its not supported and wont be as there's too many different mjpeg varieties:-
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/i...p/Xvid4psp

Pain & Chris Thanks for the replies I'm pretty new to most of this stuff so I really appreciate the help you have given. I didn't know the formats,encoders used so Thanks for the tips I will have to re-encode photos and video what a drag ! I will post back the results of Media Info

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Here's the Info on the photos and Video using a HP Mz67 digital Camera

First is the Video:

General
Complete name : C:\Users\Pictures\2008-05 (May)\HPIM0446.AVI
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 96.0 MiB
Duration : 3mn 48s
Overall bit rate : 3 520 Kbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : JPEG
Codec ID : MJPG
Duration : 3mn 48s
Bit rate : 3 330 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.807
Stream size : 90.8 MiB (95%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 3mn 48s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 180 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 11.3 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 4.91 MiB (5%)
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)

Now the Photo:
General
Complete name : C:\Users\Pictures\2008-05 (May)\HPIM0454.JPG
Format : JPEG
File size : 3.01 MiB

Image
Format : JPEG
Width : 3 264 pixels
Height : 2 448 pixels
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy

[MediaHound]

Any suggestions on the images ? I converted the video to MKV and now plays on my PCH-C200 Thanks ! But what do I do for the images,convert jpeg to jpeg that makes no sense to me ! Or should I use another format ? I already have a image converter,I checked out the Irfanview.But I have a image converter AVS image converter that works well enough.I need help with what to convert them too. Any suggestions would be great Thanks !

[Pain]

Try converting back to jpeg. The C200 can display jpegs, so there must be something unusual about yours. Hopefully running them through the converting program will make them more normal. Try a few first.


Edit:
The PCH developers should be interested in having a look at a jpeg that can crash the C200. The problem is getting them to notice.
If you post in the Bugs and features forum with the word BUG in the header, and a link to somewhere a sample picture can be downloaded then it may happen.

[halfelite]

someone had a problem with images and it was something strange like if they got them off the fuji website and they were missing the Date/Time Original in the EXIF it would cause the 200 series to crash. so i would start there.

[MediaHound]

(04-26-2011 07:17 PM)halfelite Wrote:  someone had a problem with images and it was something strange like if they got them off the fuji website and they were missing the Date/Time Original in the EXIF it would cause the 200 series to crash. so i would start there.

Halflite, Would do you mean ? These images are images that I have taken myself and downloaded to my computer via Windows Photo Gallery.

I don't like the time and date stamp on my images except for certain situations !
A lot of these photos are from a Roger Waters Concert.That I would like to view on my TV

[halfelite]

its not a timestamp on the image. download an EXIF viewer. Pictures store meta data in the header and just check to make sure it has the date/time original field filled in