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[C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
05-09-2011, 04:48 PM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2011 11:26 AM by werner.)
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[C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Dear customers,

Please be informed that Popcorn Hour C-200 firmware:
02-04-110422-21-POP-408-000
and NMT apps:
02-04-101104-21-POP-408
is available for update.

Goto Setup->Maintenance->Check for firmware update
OR
for offline update and release notes, download from:


> > > D O W N L O A D < < <

please download this package and follow then the instructions inside the zip file!!!!

RELEASENOTES FIRMWARE
Code:
Release date : 9 May 2011
Firmware version : 02-04-110422-21-POP-408-000

1. Still same NMT apps 02-04-101104-21-POP-408
2. BD/AVCHD/DVD/CDDA
   - Fixed ISO and BD playback fail from USB, when started through certain flash app
3. Video and Audio playback
   - Fixed 3D output failure due to incorrect filename parsing (Bug #5002069/#0000541)
   - Fixed stuttering 25fps H264 video in MKV (Bug #5001993)
   - workaround incorrect PCM/WAV detection (Bug #5001942/#0000161)
   - AVI chunk data handling of padding to even boundary (Bug #5002058/#0000531)
   - Fixed FLAC playback random crashed due to stack violation (Bug #5002065/#0000539)
   - Fixed framerate sync issue with video-only file (Bug #5001539)
   - Fixed for small glitches during FLAC gapless (Bug #5001646)
   - External SRT subtitle "index.srt" loaded as default subtitle for simpleBD
   - Fixed wrong positioning of SSA subtitle text with move tag (Bug #5001944)
   - Fix Arabic character shaping issue (Bug #5002053/#0000272)
   - Fixed ability to extract Dolby Digital (AC3) core from TrueHD stream,
     can bitstream and downmix now.
4. Networked Media JukeBox (NMJ)
   - NFO file issue fixed
   - Fixed NMJ Scanning hangs occasionally when parsing certain MKV
5. System/Network
   - German translation changes
   - Fixed crash when click on GPL link in "open source license" screen
   - Fixed "moving up/PageUp from webservices with multiple pages generates an error" (Bug #5001534)
   - Fixed certain Audio CD ripping failed, due to special character in filename (Bug #5002061)
   - Added manual setting of YCbCr colorspace (BT.601 and BT.709). Auto colorspace is under development.

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NMT Apps Version : 02-04-101104-21-POP-408

Release Notes :
1. Minimum firmware version to use this NMT App is 02-04-101104-21-POP-408-000
2. Version stepping, practically same as 02-03-100427-21-POP-408


Note: Unzip into the root of your USB thumbdrive. Browse to usbupdate.html to update.

BD Playback without internal HDD
Quote:1.) Format an USB Stick with 2GB or more to ntfs,fat32 or ext3
2.) Plugin the Stick
3.) Now you can playback BD's with BD-J and BD Live


Quote:IMPORTANT: THIS WORK ONLY 5 TIMES IN EACH OF THE SETUPS!
DVD Region Setting:
1.) Insert an DVD Disc which has the Region you wanna setup, if the Region is not the same as the Disc has, it wont work!
2.) Please go into the Setup Page
3.) press now "Slow, 1, 6, 8, 3" on your remote (SLOW means the |> Button on the Remote)
4.) now an popup shows up, on the remote use the number for the region you wanna set.

Quote:1 Canada, United States; U.S. territories; Bermuda
2 Western Europe, incl. United Kingdom, and Central Europe; Western Asia; including Iran, Israel and Turkey, Egypt; Japan, South Africa, Swaziland, Lesotho; French overseas territories
3 Southeast Asia; South Korea; Taiwan; Hong Kong; Macau
4 Mexico, Central and South America; Caribbean; Australia; New Zealand; Oceania;
5 Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Continent of Africa, excluding Egypt, South Africa, Swaziland, and Lesotho; Central and South Asia, Mongolia, North Korea.
6 People's Republic of China, Hong Kong

BD Region Setting:
1.) go into Setup (no need to put an BluRay into the drive)
2.) press now "Slow, 1, 6, 6, 3" on your remote (SLOW means the |> Button on the Remote)
3.) an popup shows up, on the remote use the number keys to select the region you need.

Quote:1 = Region A
2 = Region B
3 = Region C

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05-09-2011, 05:17 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Great to see YCbCr has been added, thanks!

C200 -> Denon 1911 ->Pioneer KURO KRP-500M
A210 -> Arcam AVR600 -> Marantz VP15s
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05-09-2011, 05:20 PM (This post was last modified: 05-09-2011 05:25 PM by Dave_D.)
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Before we get swamped with queries, the Beta Testers have obviously used this firmware and here's what we found;

Code:
- Fixed ability to extract Dolby Digital (AC3) core from TrueHD stream,
     can bitstream and downmix now.

YES this is true but please be informed that you will only be able to extract AC3 core from BDMV/BD ISO and M2TS files.

You will NOT be able to playback AC3 core from a TrueHD stream in TS files.
You will NOT be able to playback AC3 core from a TrueHD stream in MKV files.

The reason it doesn't work for MKV is because it discards AC3 cores in TrueHD tracks. If you don't believe me, please read it from the author of mkvtoolnix himself;

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=...ost1376239

Also important is the implementation of Deep Color in Setup > Audio/Video

Code:
Added manual setting of YCbCr colorspace (BT.601 and BT.709). Auto colorspace is under development.

Select BT.709 for playback of HD content and BT.601 for SD content.

Expect problems if you don't follow it until Automatic detection is implemented in future firmware.

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05-09-2011, 06:28 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
(05-09-2011 04:48 PM)werner Wrote:  2. BD/AVCHD/DVD/CDDA
- Fixed ISO and BD playback fail from USB, when started through certain flash app

I've had problems starting .iso from UMC, when playing over the network. Is this the same problem? Why does this say 'from USB'?

C-200 - USB local storage, HDMI to Sony Bravia KLV-46X450A, S/PDIF to Sony DAV-F500
A-200 - USB local storage, HDMI to Sony Bravia KLV-32W400A
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05-09-2011, 06:29 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Thanks for the update :-)
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05-09-2011, 06:34 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
UMC had a different issue how they handled dvd/bd that has nothing todo with this fix, mooh (UMC dev) released a database converter 1 month ago as far as i know which should fix that issue if you used the firmware release before the 8 March Firmware.

There was a other bug which broken the BD/DVD from Flash Api at all with the 8 March firmware release, this is with that build fixed again.

They state it is USB because that was the root cause, anyway it is related to starting BD/DVD from Flash Api.

Regards,
Werner

(05-09-2011 06:28 PM)PeterB Wrote:  
(05-09-2011 04:48 PM)werner Wrote:  2. BD/AVCHD/DVD/CDDA
- Fixed ISO and BD playback fail from USB, when started through certain flash app

I've had problems starting .iso from UMC, when playing over the network. Is this the same problem? Why does this say 'from USB'?

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05-09-2011, 06:45 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Thank you Werner, does this mean that the Eversion/Yamj skin will play iso's and BD file structure files?

(05-09-2011 06:34 PM)werner Wrote:  UMC had a different issue how they handled dvd/bd that has nothing todo with this fix, mooh (UMC dev) released a database converter 1 month ago as far as i know which should fix that issue if you used the firmware release before the 8 March Firmware.

There was a other bug which broken the BD/DVD from Flash Api at all with the 8 March firmware release, this is with that build fixed again.

They state it is USB because that was the root cause, anyway it is related to starting BD/DVD from Flash Api.

Regards,
Werner

(05-09-2011 06:28 PM)PeterB Wrote:  
(05-09-2011 04:48 PM)werner Wrote:  2. BD/AVCHD/DVD/CDDA
- Fixed ISO and BD playback fail from USB, when started through certain flash app

I've had problems starting .iso from UMC, when playing over the network. Is this the same problem? Why does this say 'from USB'?

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PCH-C200 (Sammy 8X BD-ROM, 2.5" 250GB HD)
PCH-A210
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05-09-2011, 06:49 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
yes correct

(05-09-2011 06:45 PM)tryguy Wrote:  Thank you Werner, does this mean that the Eversion/Yamj skin will play iso's and BD file structure files?

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05-09-2011, 07:20 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Well, even without doing any database conversion, I can now play .iso files from UMC.

C-200 - USB local storage, HDMI to Sony Bravia KLV-46X450A, S/PDIF to Sony DAV-F500
A-200 - USB local storage, HDMI to Sony Bravia KLV-32W400A
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05-09-2011, 07:46 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
(05-09-2011 05:17 PM)gvera Wrote:  Great to see YCbCr has been added, thanks!

Whats YCbCr do? sorry for my ignorance.
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05-09-2011, 07:51 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Thanks for the birthday present! I didn't see it in the notes, but was the subtitle bug that causes crashes fixed in this firmware?

CJ

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05-09-2011, 08:09 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
I tested gapless FLAC and WAV and can tell the problem is not gone, just differentSad
With previous firmware glitch was present 5-8 seconds before track transition, with new firmware and FLAC small glitch is present exact between second 2 and 3 of next track. It is very small like from scratched vinyl. With WAV files gap is very audible and something about 0.1-0.2 seconds exact at track transition. The gap varies from one play attempt to another. I tested it with song divided in two files in wave editor. On PC files play OK with no glitch.
C200 is connected to Marantz SR5003 trough HDMI.
Another problem that exists in all firmwares, is that at playback start some small part is lost, because c200 not start output audio data stream before actual playback begins. In result receiver can not synchronize and correctly start decoding. In audio CD this is managed by 2 seconds pregap present by standard. Audio CD's play correctly with c200 (including HDCD coded if volume is set to 0). This problem is worse with files made from CD that is recorded in HDCD format because receiver must recognize format id that is coded in LSB of audio data (this will be so only with receiver that recognizes HDCD format because other receivers will play it as ordinary CD).
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05-09-2011, 08:15 PM
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
I guess the mounting of multiple databases from different USB hard drives along with the internal hard drive is not in this firmware?

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05-09-2011, 08:59 PM (This post was last modified: 05-09-2011 09:00 PM by werner.)
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
Hmm tested here with 4 albums which are gapless,i have converted to flac and have no gap or glitch, i am connected to a Onkyo 606 over hdmi, with the onkyo i also don't loose anything at the beginning.

Regards,
Werner




(05-09-2011 08:09 PM)charly Wrote:  I tested gapless FLAC and WAV and can tell the problem is not gone, just differentSad
With previous firmware glitch was present 5-8 seconds before track transition, with new firmware and FLAC small glitch is present exact between second 2 and 3 of next track. It is very small like from scratched vinyl. With WAV files gap is very audible and something about 0.1-0.2 seconds exact at track transition. The gap varies from one play attempt to another. I tested it with song divided in two files in wave editor. On PC files play OK with no glitch.
C200 is connected to Marantz SR5003 trough HDMI.
Another problem that exists in all firmwares, is that at playback start some small part is lost, because c200 not start output audio data stream before actual playback begins. In result receiver can not synchronize and correctly start decoding. In audio CD this is managed by 2 seconds pregap present by standard. Audio CD's play correctly with c200 (including HDCD coded if volume is set to 0). This problem is worse with files made from CD that is recorded in HDCD format because receiver must recognize format id that is coded in LSB of audio data (this will be so only with receiver that recognizes HDCD format because other receivers will play it as ordinary CD).

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05-09-2011, 09:03 PM (This post was last modified: 05-09-2011 09:04 PM by buzzbuzz.)
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RE: [C-200] Firmware 02-04-110422-21-POP-408 (02-04-101104-21-POP-408 Apps) (9.05.2011)
First time an update went wrong. No errors when updating but after the reboot it keeps hanging in the loading screen. Will have to try the recovery procedure I guess.

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