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Newbie Questions - Interested in a c-200
07-16-2011, 01:07 AM
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Newbie Questions - Interested in a c-200
I've just started looking into NMT devices and quickly found the Popcorn C-200 as one of the top choices. As I'm just starting to look into this area, I thought I would list my requirements to see if some knowledgable people here could let me know if the C-200 will work for me.

1. DVD ISO file playback with full menu support. Must support playback of both NTSC and PAL formats.
2. Mp4, m2ts, AVI and MKV playback up to 1080p as well as odd (cropped) resolutions.
3. Blu-Ray ISO playback with full menu support.
4. Nice to have: Associate user defined description and image artwork with movie files to aid identification. User definable indexes for customized search.
5. Silent / fanless operation
6. Internal 3.5” SATA HDD capable with support for greater than 2 TB disks.
7. Network read/write support to allow data transfer to/from a Windows computer system (i.e. Samba).
8. Nice to have: Support streaming to DLNA devices on the network.
9. Nice to have: BitTorrent client. Jdownloader?
10. IR remote control interface to enable use of universal remote control (i.e. Harmony).

I appreciate any info provided that will let me know if the C-200 can meet these requirements. Thank-you.
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07-16-2011, 01:28 AM
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RE: Newbie Questions - Interested in a c-200
Hi

I'll answer the best I can!

1. Yes.
2. I play all those file types and have never had an issue. (Although I only use ts and mkv for 1080p.)
3. Yes.
4. Not really sure what you require, but there are many different options available for a 'jukebox' with artwork and description.
5. Yes.
6. No problem up to 2 tb. Not sure about 3tb drives, although I think some people have them.
7. Yes.
8. Not sure.
9. Yes.
10. RF is standard. IR is an option. I use a universal remote with the optional IR kit.

I have had an A-110, A-200 and C-200 and am very happy with them all.

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07-16-2011, 05:30 AM (This post was last modified: 07-16-2011 06:27 AM by TitanFan.)
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(07-16-2011 01:28 AM)ConciseCarp Wrote:  Hi

I'll answer the best I can!

1. Yes.
2. I play all those file types and have never had an issue. (Although I only use ts and mkv for 1080p.)
3. Yes.
4. Not really sure what you require, but there are many different options available for a 'jukebox' with artwork and description.
5. Yes.
6. No problem up to 2 tb. Not sure about 3tb drives, although I think some people have them.
7. Yes.
8. Not sure.
9. Yes.
10. RF is standard. IR is an option. I use a universal remote with the optional IR kit.

I have had an A-110, A-200 and C-200 and am very happy with them all.

Thanks for the quick answers! Looks like the C-200 will meet my requirements. The one I really wasn’t sure of was support for PAL video playback. My PS3 refuses to play PAL, and my DVD player will only play PAL video if I edit the .IFO files to fool it, and then the menus don’t quite work.


Oh, I had one other thought. Are there any plans to support VUDU or possibly Netflix? Then I could let my kid have the PS3 for full time gaming and just use the C-200 for all video needs.
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07-16-2011, 08:19 AM
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Netflix require the player to be locked down from a user development point of view so it will not come to the NMT. Search the forum and you'll find greater detail on this.

You do need to set a DVD and BD Region. So if you have DVD's that are Region 1 and Region 2 and need to constantly change region then make sure that you go for a LG BD ROM as mediacodedit works on them and allows for a RPC2reset firmware to be installed on them. Then using the NMT Apps and the CSI app Counter Reset you can have unlimited region changes and get rid of the 5 change limit.
If the DVD's are backups then simply remove the region coding with the likes of AnyDVD.

Can your TV actually support PAL? You are showing as a USA member so I would have thought that your TV would be USA and they don't support PAL.

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07-16-2011, 09:19 AM (This post was last modified: 07-16-2011 09:38 AM by TitanFan.)
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> Can your TV actually support PAL? You are showing as a USA member so I would have thought that your TV would be USA and they don't support PAL.

My TV supports 60 Hz only. The C-200 will have to take the PAL 50 Hz video input and convert the output to 60 Hz. My friend's Oppo Blu-Ray player does this. How will the C-200 handle the output of a 50 Hz 720x576 PAL input file? The funny thing is that my Panasonic DVD player can play PAL DVDs if I edit the .IFO files and change the settings from PAL to NTSC. Not sure what it's doing, but I get a good picture and sound, but the menu navigation doesn't work too well. That's why I would like a media player solution that can properly handle PAL video playback, plus editing .IFO files is pretty inconvenient.
Ah, now I remember. I needed to make two changes in the .IFO files to play the PAL DVD: 1. Change the PAL setting to NTSC. 2. Change the resolution from 720x576 to 720x480. It worked. By changing the resolution in the .IFO files, am I cutting off part of the output picture?
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07-16-2011, 01:23 PM
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The C-200 can play back 50Hz DVD ISOs at 60Hz - but you'll probably have intermittent stuttering in the image, since there's no way to evenly create the 10 additional fields per second.

Just make sure you specify in the setup that your output is 1080p60Hz and that FrameRate sync only is 24/NTSC (or is it called 24/60?) if your TV is capable of 24Hz input. If not, just disable FrameRate sync altogether and just go for 1080p60 if your TV is HD capable, or NTSC if it is a plain old tube TV.

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07-16-2011, 08:40 PM
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(07-16-2011 01:23 PM)HeartWare Wrote:  The C-200 can play back 50Hz DVD ISOs at 60Hz - but you'll probably have intermittent stuttering in the image, since there's no way to evenly create the 10 additional fields per second.

Just make sure you specify in the setup that your output is 1080p60Hz and that FrameRate sync only is 24/NTSC (or is it called 24/60?) if your TV is capable of 24Hz input. If not, just disable FrameRate sync altogether and just go for 1080p60 if your TV is HD capable, or NTSC if it is a plain old tube TV.

Yes, that's the answer I was looking for! My TV is 1080p 60Hz only, so that's the setting I will have to use. I expect the C-200 will be able to output the full PAL video resolution of 720x576 to my TV, right?
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07-16-2011, 09:05 PM
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check your tv specs most US tv's will not handle a pal source.
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07-16-2011, 09:25 PM (This post was last modified: 07-16-2011 09:28 PM by chris57.)
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In the old days it used to be possible to fool some dVD players through patching the header file of the mpeg stream to make it think its a NTSC DVD when it really is a PAL DVD, and viceversa. Think it was using DVDPatcher as far as I can remember:-
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVDPatcher

Nowadays though you should be able to play the PAL video at NTSC output. Like Hearware says set to a NTSC output resolution and turn frameratesync OFF unless you have a TV that is 24p capable.

You should however always try to get the NTSC version due to the problems with displaying PAL input at NTSC output.

I'm a little reticent though as being a EU TV owner, whose TV's can handle both PAL and NTSC, we may be assuming that a NTSC TV can display a PAL video when the input is set to 60Hz. Lets a few more USA owners confirm for you that they dont have problems with PAL DVD playback at NTSC output on their NTSC only TV's.

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07-17-2011, 03:38 AM (This post was last modified: 07-17-2011 03:40 AM by HeartWare.)
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RE: Newbie Questions - Interested in a c-200
In the digital HD domain there's no such thing as PAL or NTSC, as these acronyms generally refer to the way that colour information is transmitted over an analogue cable, and to some extent the frame rate and SD resolution used.

Once you hit the HD domain, there is only resolution and frame rate, and the standard resolutions (1920x1080 or 1280x720) is the same all over the world, which leaves only the frame rate to worry about. In Europe all TVs (that I know of) can handle both 50Hz and 60Hz input, and most (if not all) newer TVs can handle 24Hz input as well.

If the C-200 is set to output 1080p60 then it'll output that regardless of whatever resolution or frame rate the source material is at, be it SD or HD.
(07-16-2011 08:40 PM)TitanFan Wrote:  I expect the C-200 will be able to output the full PAL video resolution of 720x576 to my TV, right?

Yes - and no...

It'll accept the input of 720x576 50Hz but will upscale it to 1920x1080 60Hz (if you have set the PCH to output at that resolution and have turned off FrameRate sync).

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07-17-2011, 05:32 AM
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> It'll accept the input of 720x576 50Hz but will upscale it to 1920x1080 60Hz (if you have set the PCH to output at that resolution and have turned off FrameRate sync).

Ok, that sounds good. But, I want to maintain the correct aspect ratio. If the source material has an aspect ratio of 4:3, then upscaling to 1920x1080 will change the aspect ratio. I usually like to set my output to "native" to maintain the same resolution as the input source. Can the C-200 support converting from 50 Hz to 60 Hz and output the same resolution as the input source?
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07-17-2011, 09:03 AM (This post was last modified: 07-17-2011 09:05 AM by HeartWare.)
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No, it can't...

But you can select whether or not the 4:3 output will be stretched to fill the screen ("Full Screen") or the aspect ratio should be preserved ("Fit to Screen"). So a 720x576 50Hz will be output as a 1440x1080 image in a 1920x1080 box with pillar-boxing (black on the sides) in the "Fit to Screen" mode.

The PCH will always output at 1920x1080 (if set up in the above mentioned manner) and will scale the input image to that resolution, either filling the screen in "Full Screen" mode (stretching it out of proportions - yuck!) or adding appropriate black areas to preserve the proper aspect ratio in "Fit to Screen" mode.

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07-18-2011, 06:01 AM
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(07-17-2011 09:03 AM)HeartWare Wrote:  No, it can't...

But you can select whether or not the 4:3 output will be stretched to fill the screen ("Full Screen") or the aspect ratio should be preserved ("Fit to Screen"). So a 720x576 50Hz will be output as a 1440x1080 image in a 1920x1080 box with pillar-boxing (black on the sides) in the "Fit to Screen" mode.

The PCH will always output at 1920x1080 (if set up in the above mentioned manner) and will scale the input image to that resolution, either filling the screen in "Full Screen" mode (stretching it out of proportions - yuck!) or adding appropriate black areas to preserve the proper aspect ratio in "Fit to Screen" mode.

Okay, that's an acceptable solution. I really appreciate your detailed information - I think I will put together an order soon for a C-200. You have a new customer!
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07-18-2011, 06:08 AM
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