Any 3tb HDDS USB or Internal Work with c200?

[johno75]

Hi,

Do any 3tb HDDS either internal or usb work straight out of the box with the c200?

Cheers
Johno

[chris57]

Define work?

If you format the 3TB HDD on a PC to NTFS or Ext3 then fit it in the C200 all of the 3Tb is available. However if you install the NMT Apps onto a 3Tb HDD then only 2.19Tb are available.

WIKI c200 compatibility has one on :-
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/i..._Digital_2

[johno75]

(09-26-2011 01:31 AM)chris57 Wrote:  Define work?

If you format the 3TB HDD on a PC to NTFS or Ext3 then fit it in the C200 all of the 3Tb is available. However if you install the NMT Apps onto a 3Tb HDD then only 2.19Tb are available.

WIKI c200 compatibility has one on :-
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/i..._Digital_2

is this the same as with a 3tb usb hdd externa drive?
i've got a wd 3tb usb external hdd and the c200 won't play movies from it. it just gives me the spinning rings. if i copy a movie from the 3tb to another usb hdd and play it from the other hdd it works fine so it's not the movie files.
anyway to fix it?

[Willem53]

What drive is that?

[johno75]

(04-05-2012 06:17 AM)Willem53 Wrote:  What drive is that?

Western Digital 3TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive

WDAU3000BK

http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/pro...WDAU3000BK

[Willem53]

That should work Ok.
How did you format it.... full, not quick format, and GPT in Windows 7?

[johno75]

no i only have vista

actually come to think of it i'm not sure if even formatted it as being a usb hdd it was formatted as nfts right out of the box so I MAY just have copied content onto it. not sure?? would this make a difference?

[Willem53]

would this make a difference?...... obviously it would

[johno75]

(04-06-2012 07:00 AM)Willem53 Wrote:  would this make a difference?...... obviously it would

why would it make a difference? if it's a usb hdd and i'm using it as a usb hdd and it's already formatted as NFTS out of the box why would I need to format is as NFTS again before use?

[Willem53]

Assuming a USB drive created for the MS Windows market will also work flawless on any other OS is... well let's say much..


First what NTFS?.. there is about 5 versions...

The NTFS on-disk format has five released versions:
v1.0 with NT 3.1,[citation needed] released mid-1993
v1.1 with NT 3.5,[citation needed] released fall 1994
v1.2 with NT 3.51 (mid-1995) and NT 4 (mid-1996) (occasionally referred to as "NTFS 4.0", because file system driver version is 4.0)
v3.0 from Windows 2000 ("NTFS V5.0" or "NTFS5")[8]
v3.1 from Windows XP (autumn 2001; "NTFS V5.1")[citation needed])
V1.0 and V1.1 (and newer) are incompatible: that is, volumes written by NT 3.5x cannot be read by NT 3.1 until an update on the NT 3.5x CD is applied to NT 3.1, which also adds FAT long file name support.[9] Below are descriptions of some of the versions:
V1.2 supports compressed files, named streams, ACL-based security, etc.[2]
V3.0 added disk quotas, encryption, sparse files, reparse points, update sequence number (USN) journaling, the $Extend folder and its files, and reorganized security descriptors so that multiple files which use the same security setting can share the same descriptor.[2]
V3.1 expanded the Master File Table (MFT) entries with redundant MFT record number (useful for recovering damaged MFT files).
Windows Vista introduced Transactional NTFS, NTFS symbolic links, partition shrinking and self-healing functionality[10], though these features owe more to additional functionality of the operating system than the file system itself.
The NTFS.sys version (i.e. NTFS v5.0 introduced with Windows 2000) should not be confused with the on-disk NTFS format version (v3.1 since Windows XP).[11] The NTFS v3.1 on-disk format is unchanged from the introduction of Windows XP and is used in Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2008, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. The confusion arises when no differentiation is made when features are implemented into the NTFS.sys driver within the Windows OS rather than in the NTFS on-disk format. An incident of this was when Microsoft detailed new features within NTFS in Windows 2000 and they called it NTFS v5.0, yet it is the NTFS.sys driver that is at that version and the on-disk format is only at v3.0.[8]

Second it's accessed by a Linux NMT using a driver...

Linux
The ability to read and write to NTFS is provided by the NTFS-3G driver. It is included in most Linux distributions. Other solutions exist as well:
Linux kernel 2.2: Kernel versions 2.2.0 and later include the ability to read NTFS partitions
Linux kernel 2.6: Kernel versions 2.6.0 and later contain a driver written by Anton Altaparmakov (University of Cambridge) and Richard Russon. It supports file read, overwrite and resize.
NTFSMount: A read/write userspace NTFS driver. It provides read-write access to NTFS, excluding writing compressed and encrypted files, changing file ownership, and access rights.[44]
Tuxera NTFS: High-performance read/write commercial kernel driver, mainly targeted for embedded devices from Tuxera which also develops the open source NTFS-3G driver.
NTFS for Linux: A commercial driver with full read/write support is available as free and non-free download(s) for Desktop and Embedded Linux systems from Paragon Software Group.
Captive NTFS (discontinued)[45]: A 'wrapping' driver which uses Windows' own driver, ntfs.sys.
Note that all three userspace drivers, namely NTFSMount, NTFS-3G and Captive NTFS, are built on the Filesystem in Userspace (FUSE), a Linux kernel module tasked with bridging userspace and kernel code to save and retrieve data. All drivers listed above (except Tuxera NTFS and Paragon NTFS for Linux) are open source (GPL). Due to the complexity of internal NTFS structures, both the built-in 2.6.14 kernel driver and the FUSE drivers disallow changes to the volume that are considered unsafe, to avoid corruption.

Soure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS

[johno75]

ok so which one do I want to format the hdd with?

[Willem53]

The one provided with you Vista.. don't do a quick format but a thorough one.. it will take some hours..

Best read this first http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/ev...rives.html

[johno75]

(04-06-2012 09:51 AM)Willem53 Wrote:  The one provided with you Vista.. don't do a quick format but a thorough one.. it will take some hours..

Best read this first http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/ev...rives.html

ok thanks. i'll give that a go. cheers.

[Illu22]

johno75,

i've got a wd 3tb usb external hdd and the c200 won't play movies from it. it just gives me the spinning rings. if i copy a movie from the 3tb to another usb hdd and play it from the other hdd it works fine so it's not the movie files.
anyway to fix it?

is problem solved?

[rduke15]

I just replaced my 2TB drive with a 3TB in my C200. Since the partitioning tools in the C200 don't support GPT partition tables, I first created the GPT partition table in Linux and partitioned the drive into 2 primary ext3 partitions: 1GB for apps, and the rest for media files.

This can easily be done with Gparted from a Linux Live CD like Ubuntu or gparted or any other.

It works fine. No need for hours of "non-quick" NTFS formatting.

Since these big disks often use 4K sectors, just make sure you leave 1 MB free before the 1st partition, and UNcheck "Round to cylinders". Otherwise, performance may be poor because of bad partition alignment.

(You could also create the GPT partition table in Win7 or Mac OSX, but then you cannot format the partitions as ext3, which should work better than NTFS in a C200).