[5 October 2011] A-300 Announcement, Specifications, Screenshots, UI Presentation

[nPiotr]

1) Will A-300 support 10-bit H.264 files?
2) Does new chipset have enough power to provide better support for ASS/SSA subtitles (some basic animation/karaoke effects support)?
2) Will A-300 provide full support for OGG Vorbis audio files (not some weird workaround with 5 second lag like in 200-series)?
4) Any chances for C-300 ?

[werner]

not true we would love to switch to the new ui and we have no issue with that, if that would be the case then we would never bring new features at all and just release new devices everytime we bring a new feature, but we also respect the user projects where some will be affected by the switch to the new ui, which again could make many customers disapointed, so that's why we have a poll now.
We try to support all our devices as long as possible.
Anyway I am all for the new UI because I love it but I also don't use user projects at all.

Regards,
Werner

(10-06-2011 12:56 PM)sanctrum Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 11:56 AM)Syabas Wrote:  We are just being cautious with rolling out new NMJv2 UI for the 200 series, since
it has been in market for close to 2 years now, and we don't want to force
the new UI on users.

If we do roll out the new NMJv2 UI, it will be a one-way update, no rolling back the
firmware, as we have to update the underlying SDK as well.

No offend but this is just bla, bla, bla. I can give you at least two examples of the companies which by implementing the whole complete new UI (better, faster, much more WOW!) to the existing over 1.5 year product made the customers very, very happy...

There are no major technical issues here! The truth is that you do not want to make 200er to compete new 300er. And that is understandable but VERY, VERY dishonest to 200er community that was engaged and looked like used by Syabas, deliberately, with all cynicism to help working out new UI in conviction that these all is for 200er, to improve 200er… And now that was just a big lie? I can't believe it. And the poll poster by Werner doesn not change the facts a bit. .

[werner]

maybe you missed it but there is already Eversion which is Yamj flash based

(10-06-2011 01:14 PM)sanctrum Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 01:10 PM)safran64 Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 12:56 PM)sanctrum Wrote:  There are no major technical issues here!

It's more about that html based apps and YAMJ html skins wouldn't be possible anymore.
And though many of us can I think other users don't want to give up those things.

There is a chance to improve 200er like was never before. YAMJ is obsolete... and belongs to 100er.
Now the community can build NEW FLASH YAMJ - if the flash API shall be released to the public! Imagine the posibbilities!!!

[sanctrum]

(10-06-2011 01:22 PM)werner Wrote:  not true we would love to switch to the new ui and we have no issue with that, if that would be the case then we would never bring new features at all and just release new devices everytime we bring a new feature, but we also respect the user projects where some will be affected by the switch to the new ui, which again could make many customers disapointed, so that's why we have a poll now.
We try to support all our devices as long as possible.
Anyway I am all for the new UI because I love it but I also don't use user projects at all.

Regards,
Werner

(10-06-2011 12:56 PM)sanctrum Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 11:56 AM)Syabas Wrote:  We are just being cautious with rolling out new NMJv2 UI for the 200 series, since
it has been in market for close to 2 years now, and we don't want to force
the new UI on users.

If we do roll out the new NMJv2 UI, it will be a one-way update, no rolling back the
firmware, as we have to update the underlying SDK as well.

No offend but this is just bla, bla, bla. I can give you at least two examples of the companies which by implementing the whole complete new UI (better, faster, much more WOW!) to the existing over 1.5 year product made the customers very, very happy...

There are no major technical issues here! The truth is that you do not want to make 200er to compete new 300er. And that is understandable but VERY, VERY dishonest to 200er community that was engaged and looked like used by Syabas, deliberately, with all cynicism to help working out new UI in conviction that these all is for 200er, to improve 200er… And now that was just a big lie? I can't believe it. And the poll poster by Werner doesn not change the facts a bit. .

You are right... the old HTML base project would be abandonned... but think about the new one! FLASH based! What a grate possibilities now!

[RedHat]

COOL. Just one word!

[Dave_D]

I'll volunteer the information that what werner says is true.

During the beta/rc1 round I already voiced out in the beta tester forum that the changes in the firmware will break a lot of user developed features (notably CSI).

I like to think the beta tester forum is a microcosm of the general community and I have to admit we're pretty divided on the changes going on when we got our hands on the firmware. Initially there was a lot of surprise and disbelief because we were so used to the stability of earlier beta rounds.

I implore everyone to stop and think about the installed base of users;

- There maybe some who really don't care about new UI
- There maybe some who want the changes
- Then there's the countless other owners who don't even log-in this forum.

Our actions will dictate the fate of all of them so take a breath before you vote.

[safran64]

(10-06-2011 01:27 PM)sanctrum Wrote:  You are right... the old HTML base project would be abandonned... but think about the new one! FLASH based! What a grate possibilities now!

I'm totally with you; that's why I'm currently working with eversion.

But looking at the poll ther are many voting with "no".

[Dave_D]

And this isn't a democracy really.

You can't win the poll with a simple +1 majority. It has to be a landslide either way where the UI will head toward.

These are installed products so if I was Syabas, I wouldn't even care if everybody here screamed to the high heavens because there's no compelling financial reason to do it.

Think about it...

If we go new UI, Syabas is deliberately putting themselves back to greater support costs (which they don't have to).

[dbone1026]

(10-06-2011 02:03 PM)Dave_D Wrote:  And this isn't a democracy really.

You can't win the poll with a simple +1 majority. It has to be a landslide either way where the UI will head toward.

These are installed products so if I was Syabas, I wouldn't even care if everybody here screamed to the high heavens because there's no compelling financial reason to do it.

Think about it...

If we go new UI, Syabas is deliberately putting themselves back to greater support costs (which they don't have to).

I personally think it is a lose lose situation. Bring the Flash UI to the 200 series, people will find a reason to complain about it being slow, buggy, etc... Don't bring the Flash UI and people will complain that Syabas is abandoning the 200 series users. Doesn't matter what the polls say

[Benoche]

@Dave_D: I think it will cost them more to support to different UI, so I don't agree with you last sentence.

Bu shouldn't we discuss this in the other thread? http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showth...pid=511755

[sanctrum]

(10-06-2011 02:08 PM)dbone1026 Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 02:03 PM)Dave_D Wrote:  And this isn't a democracy really.

You can't win the poll with a simple +1 majority. It has to be a landslide either way where the UI will head toward.

These are installed products so if I was Syabas, I wouldn't even care if everybody here screamed to the high heavens because there's no compelling financial reason to do it.

Think about it...

If we go new UI, Syabas is deliberately putting themselves back to greater support costs (which they don't have to).

I personally think it is a lose lose situation. Bring the Flash UI to the 200 series, people will find a reason to complain about it being slow, buggy, etc... Don't bring the Flash UI and people will complain that Syabas is abandoning the 200 series users. Doesn't matter what the polls say

The new flash UI is quicker than the old gaya one... but of course slower than in a300.

[dbone1026]

(10-06-2011 02:14 PM)sanctrum Wrote:  The new flash UI is quicker than the old gaya one... but of course slower than in a300.

The point being some people here will always find a reason to complain regardless of what gets done

[sanctrum]

(10-06-2011 02:16 PM)dbone1026 Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 02:14 PM)sanctrum Wrote:  The new flash UI is quicker than the old gaya one... but of course slower than in a300.

The point being some people here will always find a reason to complain regardless of what gets done

That is obvious. But see now the poll results! People know what thay want. And of course I will be the first who will complain at new UI bugs ... but I still gave the BIG YES.

[Dave_D]

I can sense the polarization of the community really...

But its been waaaay tooo quiet in this forum for awhile so let's all get riled up over something ha ha ha.

[Benoche]

(10-06-2011 02:46 PM)Dave_D Wrote:  I can sense the polarization of the community really...

But its been waaaay tooo quiet in this forum for awhile so let's all get riled up over something ha ha ha.

Hahahaha, indeed! I went in one day from 0,92 posts/day to 1,09posts/day