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[NMJ v1] IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
12-29-2011, 10:25 PM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2012 03:35 AM by adam12chi.)
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IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
Recently I have started having issue adding movie to my NMJ v1. Has IMDB changed something on their site as all my movies are showing up with Years as their title. Example: 'Stone (2010).mkv' is showing up as '2010' and Dune (1984).mkv' vs '1984'. I didn't know there were some may movies with years for titles ;-) This has also started happening on my father c200 as well. Does NMJ v2 still use IMDB or does it use TMDB instead? If IMDB has changed something when can we get a fix for v1 or is v2 close enough to just wait for it's c200 release?
I am running the latest firmware and my father the previous.

File names - Movies that showed up in NMJ.
Star Wars - Episode IV - A New Hope (1977).mkv - 1977
Greystoke - The Legend of Tarzan Lord of the Apes (1984).mkv - 1984
Star Wars - Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999).mkv - 1999 Madeleine
Star Wars - Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005).mkv - 2005 AFL Grand Final
Star Trek - The Future Begins (2009).mkv - 2009 Australian Open Semi-Final: Rafael Nadal v Fernando Verdasco
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 (2010).mkv - 2010
Transformers - Dark of the Moon (2011).mkv - 2011 Dream Concert
Pirates of the Caribbean - On Stranger Tides (2011).mkv - 2011 MTV Movie Awards

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12-30-2011, 01:06 PM
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
Same here....driving me nuts! Sad
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01-05-2012, 03:43 AM
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
(12-30-2011 01:06 PM)steineb Wrote:  Same here....driving me nuts! Sad

I have a case open with support. Lets see what they say.

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01-10-2012, 02:35 PM
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
(01-05-2012 03:43 AM)adam12chi Wrote:  
(12-30-2011 01:06 PM)steineb Wrote:  Same here....driving me nuts! Sad

I have a case open with support. Lets see what they say.

I have the same problam in nmj 2 a-300 almost exact same results.
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02-03-2012, 01:20 AM
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
Support asked me for a list of movies that were corrupted. I found that all my movies that contained more than one disk were getting all mixed up and showing up as episodes to other movies. They came back saying that they had reset the 2 disk movies that I reported, but they didn't do anything about the movies that were showing up as 'Years'.

Does the PCH actually get it's data from servers at PCH and not directly from IMDB?

I asked them about my other movies and I guess I have to wait. I was about to rebuild my PCH thinking it was just FUBAR, but now I think their system is.

My music has also stopped showing up after building a new db. A few months ago it stopped processing all my .wav albumes, but now it is only loading 2 of 300 .flac albums. This used to work!

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02-03-2012, 01:23 AM
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
(02-03-2012 01:20 AM)adam12chi Wrote:  Does the PCH actually get it's data from servers at PCH and not directly from IMDB?

Correct, it's a commercial product and licensing requires they handle all the data requests so there is metadata server(s) they run that you communicate with.. it's also why they can do things like fix detection bugs without releasing a new firmware.

oh and btw, they haven't used imdb for about a year now.. your data comes from themoviedb and thetvdb with subtitles comes from opensubtitles.
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02-03-2012, 04:27 AM
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
(02-03-2012 01:23 AM)accident Wrote:  
(02-03-2012 01:20 AM)adam12chi Wrote:  Does the PCH actually get it's data from servers at PCH and not directly from IMDB?
oh and btw, they haven't used imdb for about a year now.. your data comes from themoviedb and thetvdb with subtitles comes from opensubtitles.

I thought I had read that they were going to switch, but I thought it was going to be part of NMJ2. Thanks for the info.

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03-31-2012, 08:16 PM
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
So here is my conversation w/ Support where they were able to fix some movies by updating their Movie db and finally reproduce the major issue at hand and gave me a bug tracker ID, but no ETA.

Our QA department was able to reproduce the error video tagging for the recently reported movies. This issue is officially an bug and registered in to our bug tracking system with the ID 5003459

We appreciate that you have reported this however it may take some time to resolve it.
By Popcorn Hour Support on March 26, 2012 05:43 AM
21 Dear Adam,

I have forwarded your concern over to our engineers and waiting for their reply.
By Popcorn Hour Support on March 25, 2012 11:19 PM
20 How does it give Bill Cosby - Himself (1983) a title of Star Wars: Epesode VI - Return of the Jedi and then add Star Wars - Epesode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983).mkv as an Episode!?!?
By Adam Roberts on March 19, 2012 03:43 PM
19 I didn't here back from you. Sense we last spoke I have reset factory defaults, removed NMT Apps and recovered the firmware to address the issue I was having w/ my flac tags.

I am still having issues w/ all the movies that I am expecting to work as I am giving the system the year info, so it should not be having trouble. I am also still having issue w/ the following:

The Chronicles of Narnia - Prince Caspian (2008).mkv shows up as an episode of The Chronicles of Narnia - The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (2010).mkv
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 (2011).mkv shows up as MTV Music Awards
Transformers - Revenge Of The Fallen (2009).mkv - wrong
By Adam Roberts on March 19, 2012 02:17 PM
18 none of them, plus the other ones listed below.
By Adam Roberts on February 28, 2012 09:05 PM
17 Hi Adam,

So these titles did not get scrapped correctly?

Mixed with other movies with the same title, but different year:
Alice in Wonderland (2010).mkv vs Alice in Wonderland (1951)
Labyrinth (1986).mkv vs. Labyrinth (1963)
Fair Game (2010).mkv vs Fair Game (1995)
Stone (2010).mkv vs Stone (1974)
The Bourne Identity (2002).mkv vs "The Bourne Identity" (1988) (TV mini-series)
The Debt (2010).mkv vs The Debt (2007)
The In-Laws (1979).mkv vs The In-Laws (2003/I)
True Grit (2010).mkv vs True Grit (1969)
Unknown (2011).mkv vs Unknown (2006)
Peter Pan (1953).mkv vs Peter Pan (2003)
By Popcorn Hour Support on February 28, 2012 03:25 AM
16 I am surprised that it 'guesses' wrong on so many movies and couldn't find many others. I thought we were putting the year into the name so this wouldn't happen. I think the ones it couldn't find might be because the names on imdb and themoviedb both have ':' in their names, which I have replaced with a dash because you can't use a colon in the file name.

Mixed with other movies with the same title, but different year:
Alice in Wonderland (2010).mkv vs Alice in Wonderland (1951)
Labyrinth (1986).mkv vs. Labyrinth (1963)
Fair Game (2010).mkv vs Fair Game (1995)
Stone (2010).mkv vs Stone (1974)
The Bourne Identity (2002).mkv vs "The Bourne Identity" (1988) (TV mini-series)
The Debt (2010).mkv vs The Debt (2007)
The In-Laws (1979).mkv vs The In-Laws (2003/I)
True Grit (2010).mkv vs True Grit (1969)
Unknown (2011).mkv vs Unknown (2006)
Peter Pan (1953).mkv vs Peter Pan (2003)

Not found:
Star Wars - Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999).mkv
Star Wars - Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005).mkv
Star Wars - Episode IV - A New Hope (1977).mkv
Star Wars - Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980).mkv
Star Wars - Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983).mkv
X-Men - First Class (2011).mkv

We have spoken before about the following which it bundled into episodes and if the above worked correctly, it should have gotten these right too:
Dune (1984).mkv
Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc 1.mkv
Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc_2.mkv
Robin Hood (1973).mkv
Robin Hood (2010).mkv
By Adam Roberts on February 26, 2012 08:05 PM
15 Dear Adam,

These title showed up fine on our end, as the NMJ uses your filename to "guesstimate" the cover art and info, it is rarely that it will get it the first time round, this is the reason why we have the EDIT feature.

This is not related to the Year issue as previously reported which was a cache issue.

Thank you
By Popcorn Hour Support on February 09, 2012 06:51 AM
14 Rebuild db tonight.

Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc 1.mkv
Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc_2.mkv
show up as episodes of Dune (1984).mkv

Robin Hood (2010).mkv shows up as episode of Robin Hood (1973).mkv
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) Disk 1.mkv shows up as The Legacy of Lawrence of Arabia (TV)
Ghost Busters (1984).mkv shows up as The Ghost Busters 1 (TV)
Can you request a reset on these please.
By Adam Roberts on February 07, 2012 06:19 PM
13 Thank you, I will rebuild today and let you know if how it looks. As for the Music I will open another case to avoid any confusion.
By Adam Roberts on February 04, 2012 06:02 AM
12 Hi Adam,

In order to speed up aggregating, information are being download from our cache servers on some instances.

I am perplex with the amount of titles you have reporting wrong year? As certainly this is the first time i have encounter this. Nevertheless, those titles you have provided has been submitted for refreshing.
By Popcorn Hour Support on February 04, 2012 12:41 AM
11 File names - Movies that showed up in NMJ.
Star Wars - Episode IV - A New Hope (1977).mkv - 1977
Greystoke - The Legend of Tarzan Lord of the Apes (1984).mkv - 1984
Star Wars - Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999).mkv - 1999 Madeleine
Star Wars - Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005).mkv - 2005 AFL Grand Final
Star Trek - The Future Begins (2009).mkv - 2009 Australian Open Semi-Final: Rafael Nadal v Fernando Verdasco
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 (2010).mkv - 2010
Transformers - Dark of the Moon (2011).mkv - 2011 Dream Concert
Pirates of the Caribbean - On Stranger Tides (2011).mkv - 2011 MTV Movie Awards
By Adam Roberts on February 02, 2012 04:23 PM
10 I have rebuild my db already and it only processing 2 albums. This used to work perfectly and then I lost my .wav files a few months ago and now I get 2 of 300 .flac albums when I rebuild my db.

Does the PCH check in with your servers for each update? I thought it got data from IMDB??

What about all my other movies that are getting messed up. The following all get mixed up.
Dune (1984).mkv
Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc 1.mkv
Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc_2.mkv

Bill Cosby - Himself (1983).mkv
Star Wars - Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983).mkv

Transformers - Revenge Of The Fallen (2009).mkv

Robin Hood (1973).mkv
Robin Hood (2010).mkv

Lawrence of Arabia (1962) Disk 1.mkv
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) Disk 2.mkv
and more

Do I have to send you every movie that goes wrong?
By Adam Roberts on February 02, 2012 04:10 PM
9 Hi Adam,

A reset has been performed on our end for the following movies, which resolve the issue with the wrong "year" issue.

Amadeus (1984)_Disk1.mkv
Amadeus (1984)_Disk2.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) Disk1.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) Disk2.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King (2003) Disk1.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King (2003) Disk2.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers (2002) Disk1.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers (2002) Disk2.mkv


You may wish to rebuild your DB since music album has nothing to do with IMDB movie covers.

Thank you
By Popcorn Hour Support on February 02, 2012 07:27 AM
8 Can I have an update on my case please. Has my PCH become corrupted or is something else causing this? Last night I went to re-add all my music and it only create 2 of 300 albums, the rest fell into unknown. This only odd thing I see is that they are my most two recent additions. Before I had seen that it stopped picking up all my .wav files and put them all into Unknown, but this is too much. Do I need to reset it to factory defaults and rebuild it?
By Adam Roberts on January 29, 2012 08:58 PM
7 Hi Adam,

Thank you for the extensive lists! Its very helpful and our engineers are looking at it. I may need more information from you, but please hold on until i hear from them.
By Popcorn Hour Support on January 08, 2012 09:14 PM
6 I found more on the Lord of the Rings movies. The Disk 1 and 2 got split up and both showed up in place of other movies (Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008), Inception (2010) and Independence Day (1996)). I was able to fix the movies mislabeled as Lord of the Rings movies but I can not fix Lord of the Rings movies nor Amadeus even after using NMJToolbox Utils and then run an update scan from NMJ. I also tried moving the files and deleting them from NMJ and re-adding them. Only after adding them vi NMJToolbox was I able to get them to appear on NMJ but NMJ seems to hang when I try and add Poster and Wallpaper.
By Adam Roberts on January 07, 2012 12:43 PM
5 There are a few other things that have all started at the same time.
I also have movies showing up as other movies. The Lord of the Rings movies listed below at first show up in place of Christmas Vacation (1989), Clash of the Titans (2010), Cinderella (1950) and one of the Star Wars movies show up in place of Bill Cosby: Himself (1983). To fix them I had to update the imdb tt number via NMJ and then run Scan again.

All my movies that have more than one disk have started messing up. The following all show up as undefined when I search By TV Series and I am unable to fix using NMJ.
Amadeus (1984)_Disk1.mkv
Amadeus (1984)_Disk2.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) Disk1.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) Disk2.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King (2003) Disk1.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King (2003) Disk2.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers (2002) Disk1.mkv
The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers (2002) Disk2.mkv

It is also unable to get information from imdb for tt0756352 even when I supply NMJ with the tt number. It just sits there.
By Adam Roberts on January 07, 2012 10:58 AM
4 Hi Adam,

Thank you for the lists! I have submitted to our NMJ engineers to check and rectify the issue.

Please hold on for my next reply.
By Popcorn Hour Support on January 06, 2012 08:07 AM
3 File names - Movies that showed up in NMJ.
Star Wars - Episode IV - A New Hope (1977).mkv - 1977
Greystoke - The Legend of Tarzan Lord of the Apes (1984).mkv - 1984
Star Wars - Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999).mkv - 1999 Madeleine
Star Wars - Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005).mkv - 2005 AFL Grand Final
Star Trek - The Future Begins (2009).mkv - 2009 Australian Open Semi-Final: Rafael Nadal v Fernando Verdasco
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 (2010).mkv - 2010
Transformers - Dark of the Moon (2011).mkv - 2011 Dream Concert
Pirates of the Caribbean - On Stranger Tides (2011).mkv - 2011 MTV Movie Awards
By Adam Roberts on January 04, 2012 06:34 PM
2 Dear Adam,

Are you able to supply more examples of the movie titles that you are having issues with? We will need to check our server for the error and get it rectify.

Thank you
By Popcorn Hour Support on January 02, 2012 10:32 PM
1 Recently I have started having issue adding movie to my NMJ v1. Has IMDB changed something on their site as all my movies are showing up with Years as their title. Example: 'Stone (2010).mkv' is showing up as '2010' and Dune (1984).mkv' vs '1984'. I didn't know there were some may movies with years for titles ;-) This has also started happening on my father c200 as well. Does NMJ v2 still use IMDB or does it use TMDB instead? If IMDB has changed something when can we get a fix for v1 or is v2 close enough to just wait for it's c200 release?
I am running the latest firmware and my father the previous.

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02-06-2013, 05:00 AM (This post was last modified: 02-06-2013 05:02 AM by adam12chi.)
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RE: IMDB has started returning 'Year' instead of correct movie titles.
I had big expectations when I ordered my A400, but I am very sad to see that this has still not been fixed and I spent the next several hours fixing it. Has the feature to move a show been removed in NMJ2?

Mixed with other movies with the same title, but different year:
Alice in Wonderland (2010).mkv vs Alice in Wonderland (1951)
Labyrinth (1986).mkv vs. Labyrinth (1963)
Fair Game (2010).mkv vs Fair Game (1995)
Stone (2010).mkv vs Stone (1974)
The Bourne Identity (2002).mkv vs "The Bourne Identity" (1988) (TV mini-series)
The Debt (2010).mkv vs The Debt (2007)
The In-Laws (1979).mkv vs The In-Laws (2003/I)
True Grit (2010).mkv vs True Grit (1969)
Unknown (2011).mkv vs Unknown (2006)
Peter Pan (1953).mkv vs Peter Pan (2003)

it bundled the following into episodes:
Dune (1984).mkv
Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc 1.mkv
Dune (TV mini-series 2000) disc_2.mkv
Robin Hood (1973).mkv
Robin Hood (2010).mkv

Bill Cosby - Himself (1983).mkv as an episode of Star Wars - Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983).mkv
The Twilight Saga - Eclipse (2010).mkv showed up as The Twilight Saga - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 and The Twilight Saga - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 (2011).mkv showed up as an episode of Sherlock Holmes - A Game of Shadows.

Lawrence of Arabia (1962) Disk 1.mkv shows up as The Legacy of Lawrence of Arabia (TV)

A400 - NMJ2 also created duplicate albums for tracks that featured other artist.

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