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New Sigmas SOCs
06-12-2012, 08:41 AM
Post: #1
New Sigmas SOCs
SMP8672 and SMP8674 announced !

http://www.digitaltvnews.net/content/?p=21291

http://www.digitaltvnews.net/content/?p=21292

New Popcorn products by the end of the year ? Big Grin
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06-12-2012, 08:52 AM
Post: #2
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
Quote:...in the case of the SMP8674 includes native support for XBMC and RMVB V9/V10 and DV...

can't wait the day XBMC will run on superior Sigma chip (compared to posh Intel cpus in pcs/mac).. I think when the day comes, all jukeboxes (as we know now) will become obsoleted Tongue
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06-12-2012, 09:40 AM
Post: #3
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
(06-12-2012 08:52 AM)Tr|X Wrote:  I think when the day comes, all jukeboxes (as we know now) will become obsoleted Tongue
That's why i wonder if Syabas would offer XBMC to their customers knowing that we recently integrated NMJ to their products ...
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06-12-2012, 09:47 AM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2012 09:52 AM by Willem53.)
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RE: New Sigmas SOCs
OMGWink

SMP8672 will be available from Sigma mid-July

The SMP8672 significantly boosts HTML5 and JavaScript benchmarks that reflect the expected user experience with a growing list of OTT applications,
The SMP8672 also fully supports the XBMC middleware, which is available royalty free as a turnkey release. The XBMC middleware along with additional OTT plug-ins can enable a custom high-end media jukebox experience. In addition, there is full support for the OpenGL-ES 2.0 to enable new 3D user interface capabilities as well as future applications with WebGL.
The SMP8674 even stronger and more goodies..

An Open System on a Chip..... OSoC?

now the strategic question is indeed does Syabas want to own the User interface or does PCH want to sell a lot of open systems...


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06-12-2012, 10:02 AM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2012 10:03 AM by alambra.)
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RE: New Sigmas SOCs
(06-12-2012 09:47 AM)Willem53 Wrote:  The SMP8674 even stronger and more goodies..
It's opposite, SMP8672 is stronger (yeah, Sigma naming is confusing).

SMP8674 :
Quote:The SMP8674 provides a highly-integrated, high-performance, low-cost solution for mainstream media players.
[...]
Additional features over the SMP8670 include support for:

DDR3 memory support lowers BOM cost
H.264 1080p60 decoding
Two audio DSPs to support audio transcoding
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products.php?id=151

SMP8672 :
Quote:The SMP8672 provides a highly-integrated, high-performance, low-cost solution for premium media players.
[...]
Additional features over the SMP8670 include support for:

60% faster host CPU with L2 cache improves browser and OTT performance
DDR3 memory support lowers BOM cost
H.264 1080p60 and MVC decoding
Two audio DSPs to support audio transcoding
3D graphics processor

http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products.php?id=152

(06-12-2012 09:47 AM)Willem53 Wrote:  now the strategic question is indeed does Syabas want to own the User interface or does PCH want to sell a lot of open systems...
It's a dilemma.
Maybe negociating with Realtek now ? Big Grin
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06-12-2012, 10:10 AM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2012 10:13 AM by Willem53.)
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RE: New Sigmas SOCs
Yes your right here is the comparison chart http://www.sigmadesigns.com/uploads/docu...670_br.pdf
and it also has a non HDMI digital Video output next to the HDMI....


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06-12-2012, 11:19 AM
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RE: New Sigmas SOCs
Personally there's nothing in this chip to excite me. Compare it against the 864x range and there's little to get excited about in terms of performance.

We have L2 cache and similar cpu in the current chips. There's no VXP processing nor any quality improvements it's just A.N.Other Sigma chip to me.

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06-12-2012, 11:38 AM
Post: #8
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
Agree on the core functionality of content playback there is not much difference.
But a claim on significantly boosted HTML5 and JavaScript benchmarks, turnkey full supports the XBMC middleware and full support for the OpenGL-ES 2.0 is no small matter.

the SMP8672's 60% faster host CPU for me would be a big step.

A 3D GUI would be nice alsoCool


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06-12-2012, 12:00 PM
Post: #9
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
It's only 60% quicker than a 8670 not all other Sigma chips. The 8647 has very similar specs for the cpu.

Anything that's not to do with playback is not that important to me. Having 3D ISO support may bring some customers and help Syabas in sales. XBMC is another thing that will help sales.

Will a product launched after 2011 have to have Cinevira, now where's that guy that's always worrying about Cinevira.

Turnkey support for XBMC will mean for a whole new load of 4 employee companies setting up to launch the player with XBMC. You in for it!

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06-12-2012, 04:00 PM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2012 04:12 PM by accident.)
Post: #10
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
The open API plus gpu should be exciting you.

But, read the fine print. Free turnkey xbmc. If you could make your own firmware is unclear.
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06-12-2012, 04:12 PM
Post: #11
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
I really want my SD playback improving far more than say spinning covers for my movies before I play them.

What are you envisaging as being the excitement that open API plus gpu would bring to those like me who value playback quality as the most important priority? I'm not saying others may enjoy them and there are certainly many who would buy the first player to have XBMC running, but to me its just eye candy and playback quality of my files is number one.

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06-12-2012, 04:22 PM (This post was last modified: 06-12-2012 04:50 PM by accident.)
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RE: New Sigmas SOCs
(06-12-2012 04:12 PM)chris57 Wrote:  I really want my SD playback improving far more than say spinning covers for my movies before I play them.

What are you envisaging as being the excitement that open API plus gpu would bring to those like me who value playback quality as the most important priority? I'm not saying others may enjoy them and there are certainly many who would buy the first player to have XBMC running, but to me its just eye candy and playback quality of my files is number one.

The opengl core offloads the UI from the CPU allowing more than just the added speed of the newer CPU. It mans html5, qt, etc are possible to render at a usable speed.

The API allows higher level interface to the chip making it so anyone could do new things instead of syabas list of commands and limitations because its only what they need.

I don't like xbmc and don't really care how the chips became more open, I only care that I have more options to make what I want possible. If possible to start low level making things work better, not waiting for others with different agendas and financial needs, good things.

But it needs to be priced right because the open arm based platforms are sexy and nicely priced and I really like what microsoft is doing in this area now.. Some of them are award winning on things like scalars which sigma never has won.
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06-12-2012, 04:24 PM
Post: #13
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
Cinavia as part of the FW does not make that guy worry to much if we are going for Open Systems.... if it's part of the Sigma chip then take very good care of your old NMT...Wink
Respected manufactures should embrace XBMC and compete on quality and support against those 4 man companies.


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06-16-2012, 02:23 PM
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RE: New Sigmas SOCs
I'm very excited about this also. Mostly for the support for improved U.I

PCH A-100

http://www.streamernation.com
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07-08-2012, 03:16 PM
Post: #15
RE: New Sigmas SOCs
(06-12-2012 04:22 PM)accident Wrote:  
(06-12-2012 04:12 PM)chris57 Wrote:  I really want my SD playback improving far more than say spinning covers for my movies before I play them.

What are you envisaging as being the excitement that open API plus gpu would bring to those like me who value playback quality as the most important priority? I'm not saying others may enjoy them and there are certainly many who would buy the first player to have XBMC running, but to me its just eye candy and playback quality of my files is number one.



The opengl core offloads the UI from the CPU allowing more than just the added speed of the newer CPU. It mans html5, qt, etc are possible to render at a usable speed.

The API allows higher level interface to the chip making it so anyone could do new things instead of syabas list of commands and limitations because its only what they need.

I don't like xbmc and don't really care how the chips became more open, I only care that I have more options to make what I want possible. If possible to start low level making things work better, not waiting for others with different agendas and financial needs, good things.

But it needs to be priced right because the open arm based platforms are sexy and nicely priced and I really like what microsoft is doing in this area now.. Some of them are award winning on things like scalars which sigma never has won.

I agree that ARM based platforms are advancing rapidly comparing to MIPS based.
But which platform has better scalars then Sigma?
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