YANFOE where dee go?

[squawk7600]

Hi,

I'm a bit behind the times; haven't been on here for a while. Has YANFOE disappeared now? I cant get on to the website at all - its taking me to a landing page.

In case anyone knows the answer, I'll ask it here. I have been using YANFOE with YAMJ for ages, but suddenly it's started reporting a "Bing" error..."please check your internet connection" - duh!?

If I google it, I can see the issue has been reported and resolved on yanfoe.com ...but I can't get on there! I just get 404s.

Is YANFOE down the toilet, or is it just that the website is temporarily down?

Cheers all,
S.

[Omertron]

There hasn't been any development on YANFOE for a while as far as I am aware, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's down completely.

[spinbot]

The creator didn't have the personal time to commit to any further development of it. He has done the odd fix when changes had been made by sites it depends on. With the website being down, we may not be as lucky this time to get the minor code change needed (hopefully that's all it is). It really does simplify the NFO creation.

[accident]

I thought he had open sourced it about a year ago but he's not spending too much time on it anymore. It would be wise to look for alternatives if your looking for an nfo manager.

[squawk7600]

Thanks Omertron, Spinbot and Accident.

That's a blow. It would be useful to know what that tantalising web page in google says "Bing problem [SOLVED]...read more" :-)

Yes the code is open source, but the would-be developer needs a license for Visual Studio 2010 and a 3rd party GUI library. Alas I dont have either. I have VS 2005, so perhaps I could dig out an old revision, but I still dont have the GUI bit and I dont plan on buying it for this.

Thanks again....file renaming here I come.

Cheers,
S.

[rgb30b]

Seems the Bing API was shut down, and now MS is charging to use it. I looked through the code of YanFoe v2, and signed up for the 5000 tag freebie for the API at Azure. YanFoe v2 needs a lot of work but if I could get my hands on the code for the original version, which throws up as well, I would rip Bing out if it and replace it another search API, maybe Google...I always liked YanFoe....

[squawk7600]

Thanks rgb, I suspected as much. I downloaded the v2 code with a view to trying to make the necessary hacks to take it back to .NET 2.0 but there's just no way really. Plus it needs this devexpress 3rd party win controls library which (if you look at the website) ain't cheap!! I also looked at the v1.0 repository which is annoyingly empty!

But for advocates of YANFOE who havent yet tried EMM...I now have, and I find it just as good as YANFOE for my own needs., and better in some ways. I dont really use these tools for ongoing maintenance of my movie library - I just create the NFOs as a one-off locally then copy the image, movie and NFO into my library never to change them again. So the EMM or YANFOE database is persistently empty most of the time. So bottom line, I've officially ditched YANFOE now and wish good luck to those that resurrect it.

Cheers
S.

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...oh just as a follow up, I noticed an error whilst YAMJing the other day. This was when I decided to just use the renaming method and letting YAMJ do the scrape. I got a Google error along the lines of "...Google has detected that you are performing automated queries from your computer" which apparently goes against Google policy!! Wow! Never seen that before. So I think changing YANFOE to use Google instead of Bing might also turn out to be problematic.

Incidentally you can get around the above by just manually creating a minimal NFO with the IMDB reference in it (see the YAMJ Wiki), in other words doing the initial search yourself instead of YAMJ doing it. YAMJ can then go straight to the correct page and scrape it.

However, for me, the scraping isn't as thorough or controllable as EMM so that's when I changed over.

Cheers,
S.

[Omertron]

Or you can have YAMJ write the NFO files out
http://code.google.com/p/moviejukebox/wi...impleFiles
Which you can then copy to the appropriate directory and edit if they are wrong

[squawk7600]

(08-17-2012 09:39 AM)Omertron Wrote:  Or you can have YAMJ write the NFO files out
http://code.google.com/p/moviejukebox/wi...impleFiles
Which you can then copy to the appropriate directory and edit if they are wrong

True enough, but to manually add plot and cast and ratings etc. (you know, all that guff that for some reason I like on my movie pages but never ever read ) is a bit of a drag. So we come back full circle to "if only there were some way to do it automatically?..."

[Omertron]

YAMJ scrapes all the information, you should really only need to change it if the detection of the video is wrong or you want to alter the plot in some way.

I presume that YANFOE lets you edit the plot, but unless you want to type the plot in for every movie, you can let YAMJ get it for you.
http://code.google.com/p/moviejukebox/wi...writeFiles
Will write out a "full" NFO file with all the information in it.

or use EMM.

[squawk7600]

(08-17-2012 12:13 PM)Omertron Wrote:  YAMJ scrapes all the information, you should really only need to change it if the detection of the video is wrong or you want to alter the plot in some way.

I presume that YANFOE lets you edit the plot, but unless you want to type the plot in for every movie, you can let YAMJ get it for you.
http://code.google.com/p/moviejukebox/wi...writeFiles
Will write out a "full" NFO file with all the information in it.

or use EMM.

Ah well it just goes to show my lack of knowledge in this area *bows respectfully and tugs forlock*. All I got was the image and a few basic bits and bobs. Obviously my setup is not quite right for that. But I'll stick will EMM for now as I like the greater level of control it gives (same reason I used YANFOE in the first place)

Cheers
S.

[Gaspode]

Its just the full auto scrape that's not working with Yanfoe.

If you go to the source box on the right handside for the selected file and click the > button it will open that search in the web window below and you can identify the file (I usually just use the iMDB search) once you have one code it then finds the other sources itself. Its basically two extra clicks a search.

G.

[rgb30b]

You're right Gaspode, I failed to mention that and should have. The manual "load from web" piece of YanFoe still works OK. The "batch" scrape does not...

[idbirch]

I had some email conversations with Russ back when Yanfoe development was still very much alive so I dropped him a mail a couple of weeks ago asking if he'd consider releasing the source for v1 (I find v2 to be complete garbage) but I've not had a response. I think he's well and truly washed his hands of it so unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see v1 get updated.

Unless anyone can decompile it using some shady methods?

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Well, I don't know if it's actually useful, I know next-to-nothing about .NET but I just tried running the free dotPeek decompiler on the Yanfoe V1 executable and I can see what looks to be all the code. The bing api is referenced within the main tree of items, I just have no idea how to redirect any searches to something different.

[solamnic]

Yanfoe was really great...

(no answer for me too by Ryssell (too bad))..

Yanfoe was aimed for the Popcorn users then XBMC..

EMM's prime concern is XBMC users... (the YAMJ addon does not work that well and it does not scrape banners for TV Shows ...

Btw there is another solution for Yanfoe v1 to work... Just add the imdb number of the movie to the appropriate box ... and there you go

For me now there is no decent replacement for Yanfoe ...(also use yanfoe 2 for tvshows but its really tedious to make it work properly)...