DVD Ripping & ISO Guide

[chris57]

(01-18-2010 04:46 PM)dboss Wrote:  Wanna bet???

Yes, going to test on my Q6600 and also my E2140 Pc's tonight and take the average

I'll take a screenshot. Do yours aswell and we'll see howe much difference cpu power makes.

[cmazz]

(01-18-2010 04:46 PM)dboss Wrote:  Wanna bet???

You wouldn't happen to be creating the ISO on the same Hard drive as the source files are you? I suppose that would bump up the time it takes to create an ISO, Otherwise like chris57 said...it shouldn't take that long.

[dboss]

(01-18-2010 11:28 PM)cmazz Wrote:  You wouldn't happen to be creating the ISO on the same Hard drive as the source files are you? I suppose that would bump up the time it takes to create an ISO, Otherwise like chris57 said...it shouldn't take that long.

I'm out to dinner tonight, so I won't be able to check this evening. However, I create the ISO's on my server as the added processing time for the ISO's creation is nothing compared to how long it takes copying the finished file over my network. I have 15 hard drives, but some are fairly full, other's aren't. I guess it just depends...I'll take a look tomorrow.

[chris57]

Well like yourself I didn't have time last night. Good news is that I have just done a video_ts folder to ISO with IMGBurn and:-



A 6.5Gb Stargate DVD in video_ts folder format.



Log file showing that it took less than 2 mins to create the ISO, actual time taken 1m34 secs.

Pc was a Q6600 with W7. 4Gb of RAM at stock speeds.

[Suge_K]

First iso i ever made was local C:/ to local C:/ and it took 20 mins....jebus what a pain i thought and tried creating it to external drive....5mins

...and thats on my Rick Waller 1Gb Core Duo 1.86/7 Ghz Sony Vaio laptop...

S

[dboss]

I can't figure out how to upload a screen shot without a URL, so you'll just have to trust me!

I created an ISO using the DVD Folder 'Man of Fire' measuring in at 7.85GB. I created it on my HP MediaSmart Server running WHS SP2, AMD Sempron Processor 3400+ @ 1.8 GHz with 2GB of RAM. Anyways, the elapsed time for the ISO's creation was 19m30secs...

[chris57]

(01-21-2010 07:13 PM)dboss Wrote:  I can't figure out how to upload a screen shot without a URL, so you'll just have to trust me!

A likely story

Here you are for the future:-
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showth...p?tid=4339

(01-21-2010 07:13 PM)dboss Wrote:  I created an ISO using the DVD Folder 'Man of Fire' measuring in at 7.85GB. I created it on my HP MediaSmart Server running WHS SP2, AMD Sempron Processor 3400+ @ 1.8 GHz with 2GB of RAM. Anyways, the elapsed time for the ISO's creation was 19m30secs...

Sounds like all your time is wasted transferring the file back to your PC and WHS, nothing to do with IMGBurn as creating the ISO is a step you should be doing before you put the file into storage IMO.

[dboss]

(01-22-2010 08:59 AM)chris57 Wrote:  Sounds like all your time is wasted transferring the file back to your PC and WHS, nothing to do with IMGBurn as creating the ISO is a step you should be doing before you put the file into storage IMO.

Huh? There's no transfer or 'PC' involved as everything is run on the server. I have a DVD/BD drive attached to my server which is where the rip occurs and then the ISO is created on the server as well. I believe my long-run is as Suge indicated and its due to the hard drive load, but as I said it still takes 20 min.

[TreadWater]

Thanks for the great guide. I've been using DVD Decrypter for a long time but after reading this I DL'd trials for AnyDVD and ImgBurn so I'm trying them out.

Is there any program that is good at recovering bad discs? One of my favorite movies has long had a read error near the end of the final credits. It hasn't been a problem because the disc doesn't freeze until the video is nearly over. I've tried ripping it with DVD Decrypter, AnyDVD, and ImgBurn and none will produce an ISO from this disc because they all fail when they get to the read error. I'd be happy to end up with an ISO that just truncates the movie to the portion that's readable.

[cmazz]

(01-26-2010 08:14 AM)TreadWater Wrote:  Thanks for the great guide. I've been using DVD Decrypter for a long time but after reading this I DL'd trials for AnyDVD and ImgBurn so I'm trying them out.

Is there any program that is good at recovering bad discs? One of my favorite movies has long had a read error near the end of the final credits. It hasn't been a problem because the disc doesn't freeze until the video is nearly over. I've tried ripping it with DVD Decrypter, AnyDVD, and ImgBurn and none will produce an ISO from this disc because they all fail when they get to the read error. I'd be happy to end up with an ISO that just truncates the movie to the portion that's readable.

Give ISOBuster a try. I was able to rip a bad disc that no other program could get through with it. It may or may not be able to recover the data but you should be able to rip the movie with it then create your ISO with ImgBurn.

http://www.smart-projects.net/cdrecovery.php

[mr-b]

(01-17-2010 07:46 AM)cmazz Wrote:  I hope this helps anybody who's wondering why going straight to ISO with AnyDVD running isn't always a good idea if your DVD has structure protection.

http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=...ostcount=2

Here's the whole post I made with the question I had.

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?...ight=cmazz

DrinkLyeAndDie answered a few of my questions about ripping.

Sorry for the delay in replying, but many thanks for posting this info. It answered my questions exactly and confirms that there's no shortcut to a reliable (maximum compatibility) DVD rip to an ISO i.e. you need the two-step process.

That said, I think there's a big opportunity for a consumer-oriented one-stop reliable ripper that does everything (think the video equivalent of dBPowerAmp).

[NumberSix]

Hi folks,

Looking for some advice on DVD ripping, looking to change my process, have read a lot of the content on here but looking for someone to clarify and/or just point me in the right direction, please

My ripping journey started with my PS3, I'd use DVDshrink to rip to single VOB, rename extension to MPEG and play on PS3 via USB HDD. The PS3 UI is a little naff for this, so I held off for the PCH C200 release and got one of those puppies.

The C200 arrived late December '09, and I threw in a 1.5Tb SATA drive, and set it up with vanilla YAMJ, which worked well for my need ... recently I found sometime to get AEON going and it's lush, love it!

Anyway, as I'm generally only interested in the main movie I've continued ripping to single VOB using DVDshrink. I have AnyDVD running in the background, and use this if I ever feel the need to rip a full DVD when single VOB doesn't suit.

Single (consolidated) VOBs have mostly been fine but lately some of the shortcomings have been irritating me. Those being that RWD is non-existent, and FFWD is problematic to the point it can occasionally crash the movie, resulting in a restart. Time seek is usually sufficient to get back to where I left off, as single VOBs have no chapters, but the biggest problem I've discovered lately is that sometimes the movie length is calculated incorrectly ... one movie showed as 6 secs long, despite playing in full, but time seek wouldn't let me seek past 6 secs. Wasn't a PCH issue, was the same on the PC, a remux allowed me to see the end of the film, but I'd rather negate the hassle in future.

One of the main reasons I like the single VOBs is the smaller file size compared to a full DVD rip. A VOB will generally be around 4Gb to 5Gb, whereas a full DVD rip will invariable be nearer 7Gb ... taking up almost double the space.

I want to retain the full movie quality, and the 5.1 surround audio streams, and I'm not interested in compressing my rips to save space - I just want to rip what I need and cut out the rest, but single VOBs aren't really cutting it for me anymore.

What's the best method to rip movie only in a format which will maintain picture quality & sound, retain chapter info, allow RWD & FFWD, and properly calculate the movie length.

Note that it's important that this is a simple, straightforward, process with as few steps as possible from a time perspective. For example using DVDshrink is very straightforward and takes minutes to get going ... open DVD, reauthor, select main movie, strip out unwanted audio streams, select no compression, and then backup ... 3 or 4 minutes manual input require, then 15/20 mins to rip the movie. Similarly ripping a DVD using AnyDVD is even more straightforward, insert disk, then choose Rip to Harddisk. I don't desperately want things to be much more involved than that, although I do understand there must obviously be additional steps, just keen to understand what's possible on a straightforward level.

Appreciate your input/feedback.

Many thanks,

Chris

[lewis26]

Chris,
I rip all my full disks to .isos, compressed down to a 4.5gb file. I challenge all my friends to notice a quality difference between the full disk, and the compressed one, and not one has been able to see it.

If you use a decent compression program, you will not see artifacts or a loss of quality. Additionally, they play just like dvd's, with perfect rewind and fast forward performance.

I use clonedvd to create my isos, and there are options to cut out certain parts of the disks from the iso. I have never done this, so I do not know how ff and rwd performance is.

[lordy]

Hmm, I think compressing long action movies (2hrs + ) to DVD5 will generally produce artefacts of some kind. esp with the "one click" shrinkers (clonedvd etc) Try LOTR or Transformers and the shrinkers will struggle in my experience.

Generally HDD space so cheap now , people are starting to skip the compression step.

[NumberSix]

Lewis, thanks for the info, I'll bear that in mind

Lordy, yes, that's effectively my concern, I may rip a movie and not watch it until later so don't want to take the risk of compressing it and finding out there are quality problems later, I'd rather just do a straight rip for quality purposes given, as you say, storage is cheap ... it's merely that I don't want to waste storage with the stuff I don't need/want (like the menus and the extras).